Very sad to look at it, but it is waiting for almost all aircraft of the company. This board was still with the resource and a good account of flying he was 10 years, no less.
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I write without assessing nakaryabayu ... but anyway ... so the first stick goes to pro100gamer, for that called the 134-svistoperdyshem .. Dear "prostogeymer" would have been interesting in the real look at your judgments))) explain the reason for the old ...- bike guy says Popu.-there is no God must have been if they should, he would forbid me to drink, right Sv.Otets?-Pop stood thought .. And you guy do not know why the goat shit balls, and cow cakes? The man thought ...- No, I Do not Know ((At that Pop is responsible, so if you're in the shit do not razbiraeshsya, so x ... Do you tada in religion are you going?! Morality will not read, who understood, that the INEC. pro100gamer-to remind you that this 134-svistoperdysh is a bomber (NATO do not remember, but there) and he is you and people like you, the realists, for whom and Monaliza "just a piece of paper and the plane that served as your home and, and still is (in Chelyabinsk for example there are many), and flies work off the bombing, so that's a plane, too, finds some semblance of soul chtoli, and people fly it, but the warmth of it will reverberate, no matter nachto ... They-all who letalina 134.154, IL-18 all bound up with them .. their life was spent among the clouds ... You're in your own words, I'm sorry serish their souls, and yet not even try to understand why they do not understand you .. . You're just a child Urban civilization, and quite possibly not born to chtoto make people and countries, I was just born, for the statistics ... sorry that bukAff much, just a really lousy for his words caught on ( DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
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I would write this in PM:) but anyway - the view is the view and it has the right to exist. Some here really went too far. After these words, identify yourself as a lover of aviation "- a complete hypocrisy! And the hypocrites are usually not very fond of;) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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+100! DED-CHEL entirely correct! Thank you It must be such prostogeymerov place to place! Although useless IMHO, was born to statistics ... Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
RAID74, aviation does not end at the Tu-154 ... the more you potsreoty Russia, first started to read the bottom of the comment: "shit Boeing / Airbus" and stuff, but why write such a thing? I'm like proud of Airbus, for me it gordrost, but please note that I did not write the first: "Tu latrine, etc., and you? TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
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Mihail Stepanov, and you? Also for the statistics ... Just here pontorezov mnogova something was: "for statistics and stuff, you have done for the people / country? Nothing! I do know that if a man lying on the pavement, you never get to it and will pass, it's called: "For a country, for the people"? Just empty words! TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
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Tapo4eG - filter please his speech, because like the following very clearly, it was suggested for consideration. DO NOT have to compile all, do not use the word in the lexicon "potsreot" - respect yourself first. I do not know what made Michael Stepanov for the country, but I know that this man did enough to AVSIMA and simulator. And what did you think that came here and start some water? Do not be pathetic and unnecessary words about littering the men - we are talking about aviation. And nobody said that the aircraft ends Tu154. But to communicate with respect, I would recommend you until you started handing out "mustard plasters" and "tricks! :) Best regards. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Nested look in the Files section. We'll see that I personally did for avsima. Now exactly what you did? On the scale of the country do not think you should go after the local scale :-))))) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
... Nothing. www, 16 years ago, #
finonsiruyu other activities for children, various sports: soccer, street ball, tennis. I think that's enough! TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
It also helped in building the barge, which rides on the lake at the moment and carries tourists, but of course all the credit more of my father, but I actively helped. TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
And yes, when engaged in dancing, performed at events. TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
Yes, everyone makes (though small) contribution to his country and his people, but that's what - it depends on the person. serg09, 16 years ago, #
Nameko did not see anything clever, DED-CHEL and Mikhail Stepanov, if you want his statements to offend, insult or something like that, unfortunately you have failed, already accustomed to the cries of "gorepatriotov" as rightly said TaPo4eG you with your tushkobratiey first began to "drive" on foreign aircraft, and about the birth ... so we are all here for statistics, and your panel is not a reason to consider themselves smarter and better than others (by the way you really uv.Mihail potsreot enough to see your comments to the videos with the participation of the U.S. Air Force, or simply still air) you can not even show respect for elementary to whom you're arguing, you're mutilating nicknames are insulting, you can not normally carry spores, it all comes down to the fact that Boeing and Airbus crap and Bird taxis, you simply can not know how to accept defeat in this case, the defeat of the Soviet aircraft industry before aviation industry in developed countries. pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Oh ... people, let those spacecraft will try to show each other respect, no matter who started, who finished quite simply let those stop to argue, our arguments will only be a new opportunity for future disputes, so tired to be honest. And unlike some people - RAID74 and Denis Minaev say absolutely the right thing, people start with yourself, build yourself, form at last, and respect others, even if they are in something wrong, do not throw like beasts into battle, it only exacerbates position, and your swearing, spores from the elementary "nevzaimoponimaniya" clutter all around. In general, even Know what to say, probably it is useless. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
respect for each other?? think it is not possible. Aramis quote from the movie three musketeers: "Guards are not educated." Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Just a gamer. I hasten to disagree with you, the defeat of the Soviet aircraft industry did not take place, it just stopped doing, if IL-86, Tu-154M sculptured in different countries as a Kalashnikov, everything would be flying our cheap and reliable whole bird, but here the collision does not make sense , who is about profitability, who is about the soul, I call to end this unnecessary dispute? DownSet, 16 years ago, #
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Hahahhahha well laugh)) oh))) thanks)) Владимир Пахомов, 16 years ago, #
pro100gamer: Please provide an example of my arguments is not respect for opponents, insults. By the way, I did not argue with anyone, just expressing my point of view. But nevertheless, that either expressing I brought a lot of arguments with which by the way, you are not a lot. In general, there is a proposal to cease such talk does not show partiality. In particular, removed from the lexicon (at mene to me), the words "potsreot", "patriot" - otherwise I will apply to you one of the capacious words in every remark directed at your address. Believe me, not like it. Besides, there already warned you about the sanctions that may apply here (if not already used). Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Here's your quote: "Responses (11): Mihail Stepanovmem (1 day ago): You're not Putin a chance?" And you in there, imbitsil "What does that mean? Again, please write correctly in Russian. No errors. mosyou, 16 years ago, #
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Colleagues here in person I would have such similar prostogeymeru generally drove from the site, and generally would forbid them to their dirty hands touched a saint of our own air ... Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #
Mosyou: Let me explain: It was an adequate answer to your kament "There was dear to him." And what reaction you expect? Then on the Comment shows that a lot of people worry about the plot, many who have heart sank. And you absolutely do not care about feelings of the people below who wrote about his grief and love for this aircraft have written your kament to spit them all in the soul. So I wanted you, to you was such an attitude. A imbitsil in this case is not an insult, and your diagnosis (after such a spit in the soul). And if they insult the reply - to think that before something pisat.Eto fact, which is useless to deny. Can my kamenty see is the first time on this site when I was led to write so frankly. And my grammatical errors will indicate to me only when I ask about it. I work for lack of competent and lokanichnoy writings, so that here and in the ace I can afford to write even in Albany. But here's just different, that it was in the browser, the font was quite small, barely visible text, and have to write in fits and starts, quickly, just no time. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
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all right ... trash must be disposed of and make him new planes rather than mourn monsters 40 years ago ... they are fit only for the museum ... tranzit_il, 16 years ago, #
right now pancake dashes fly .. but this is the price of truth, in which 90% do not want to believe tranzit_il, 16 years ago, #
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I do not like to put a negative sign and unjustified bezimyano, so you say you are a little nepravy.Vam lacks the notion of who we were and what became. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Frankly Tranzit not understand that it is not just airplane as a whole golden era of aviation that goes along with it. Dear Tranzit you just IM. DATED times do not understand. And to call this Seamer then you can not ... Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #
Seamer this is the one who is competent in Microsoft Flight Simulator Fake, 16 years ago, #
Oh, how many pluses. Pepsi Generation pluses :-)) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
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What the children grow up. They know that a few words: free beer, Pepsi. Soon America and will not have to fight with themselves ass is framed. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
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Misha, it's useless to explain to you in ten said. Acman, 16 years ago, #
I forgot to say, because we then have served in the Army and his duty to the Motherland otdali.Eto quiet words that's true. Acman, 16 years ago, #
No, Fake You nepravy.Simer whoever maximum pribzhaet iskutvo flight and samoletovzhdeniya to the realities. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Eyakuba. special thanks to an idiot. any age and leaves her memory remains only in the museum .. I wrote about it ... What about safety? how can prolong life? yourself on what might prefer to fly? to 738 brand-new or 40 years poltinike that HZ will fly or not ... that's why I repeat - it's time rubbish disposed of and do not forget to leave a few pieces for museums ... and that, 30-40ka summer boengi not cut? 727 has long been sawed .. and 747 also sawing ... even the NY film about it was ... so I. .. OT - I'm not ... tranzit_il, 16 years ago, #
To hell with these Bobik and watermelons! Spitting on the WEST !!!!! Give Magic SINGING THREE SOLOVYEV and attractive flying the most beautiful - 154OM. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
2tranzit_il that for Bret write in the first place than 40 years, this board is 11 years old to fly on a calendar resource, and secondly we have an older Boeing and fly in the third from a carcass with security in order. But I prefer to fly a Tu-154 Reagent, 16 years ago, #
and forget about the fact that 154 eats in 2,5-3 times more fuel than the A320 under the same conditions, plus the 154-th noisy 320go for a couple of tens of decibels (if not mistaken, 115 dB at 154 against 82, at 320, taking into account what threshold of pain is 100 dB) Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
Ravnmm, you really do not understand scale kotostrofy? Or so boltaetete from the lantern? Acman, 16 years ago, #
Kotostrofy or disaster? "Kotostrofy" I do not understand XDD. But look at yourself in the future, what do you see there ... Ahem, hum, I think nothing, live ghost Tu-334 blueprints and layouts insignificant Tu-324 and Tu-414, a tragedy - a tragedy, but the 154th best and will always remain in my heart, IMHO:) Maybe in 15 years - 20t will be so worthy replacement, which may come into a big production, but I think even if they come, the "West" we will outstrip even years to 30t, and we will plod along as tacky tail ... yes yes yes ... be there to restore order, at the top, where the rulers, officials, while there will not be pure, there will be development of aviation industry, so judge for yourself. PS From the lantern do not talk, torch, I closed. XDD Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
Georgian_Airways ... Human 100% .. What about all the old stradateley - skintes all, buy a 154, Restored and lets the bubbles are about 30 years ... what you want? boeng and Airbus are investing huge sums of money in research, development, etc. therefore they make good and modern aircraft ... But Russia can not and does not want ... Shoot you like soupy devchenki .. th plane cut ... was already on the forum 100500 order on this occasion .. and most are aware that the AK is all true makes that refuse ancient birds ... tranzit_il, 16 years ago, #
Ravnmm, you sorry for the mistakes pozhaluysta.Ya yesterday already srubalsya.Pozdno we bylo.Ya agree with you. Acman, 16 years ago, #
But you must excuse why not invest? And you say that the AK is all true delayut.A, do you know that the inhomogeneities in the world economy inhomogeneity can not do without state orders. This is natural and understandable as koleso.A, we have it only in the MIC. Acman, 16 years ago, #
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Rate not want to be. " For the video ... I do not like sad videos. The Soviet-Russian cars PM .. but. Do not know how to do, can not and will not be able to (IMHO), no shit and try. Can you throw stones. BUT aviation industry is another matter. I was five years crawling around on the parking lot, then the Kuibyshev Aviation Plant, which made large carcasses and handsome Tu-95. At stops are crowded there. And the carcasses of one another more beautiful (especially for the Islamic countries) ... Oh, nostalgia can be seen from the fact that never will be ... According to the characteristics of a carcass, Boeing, watermelon will not tell, do not know. But OUR BOARD most beautiful. Maybe not in a theme, long ago read in a book on Soviet warships: "Choose a raid on the ten most beautiful, clean and well-maintained ships, in nine cases out of ten you will not mistake it would be Soviet ships. With bitterness has concluded that what the western press," well, and planes. ... And those who wanted to upgrade could, and avionics and dviguny. But anyone can see it is not so profitable, it is better to develop the western aviation industry. (Purely personal opinion does not impose, but not refuse) anby, 16 years ago, #
+10000000000000 RAID74, 16 years ago, #
prisodinyayus to RAID74. Adding another bunch of zeros. Санька-заЛЕТЧИК, 16 years ago, #
it was possible to upgrade the glider at the same time Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
From Georgian_Airways I agree to 100000000000%! Артемий154М, 16 years ago, #
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The mark sets will not. " One thing I will say KOZLOV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
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Long time since I did not get such a variety of emotions to comment. The funny thing is that both of them - are right (yes, the plane is out of date, but yes - it is our memory, to saw the old stuff, but leave 4-5 pieces for museums, not to miss the past, yes , to replace domestic cars unrealistic - aviation industry is successfully driven into a point by the government, lobby for Boeing and Airbus with huge kickbacks to the top). But do not hear each other, because the main rule of modern AVSIMA: NASR first, do not give shit to yourself! "What matters now is not adequate, not stooping to the level of cattle, to prove a point, using a competent speech, and a rich vocabulary, and insult, humiliate and show what kind of shit reviewer for comments. Bravo gentlemen, Bravo! individual must be ashamed of his behavior, but cattle are not ashamed to happen, unfortunately. Hotspot. Welcome to bydlosim! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Word / Bravo / I took your comments would be in quotes, like this: "Bravo!" Because, if I understand your point - there does not clap his hands, and I want to cry ... why so much swearing in itself - that actually ... ((( ilyatim, 16 years ago, #
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By the way, dear ilyatim, sorry for avsime not search the comments, I would have tossed the pieces 10-15 links to your comments some years ago, and then re-addressed to your question you have to do: "And why so much swearing in reality? :) But, I am glad that you are aware of now. Let's do Avsim kinder! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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Avsim will never be kinder yet some people only respect themselves and their opinions. Денис Минаев, 16 years ago, #
So we must seek to these individuals looked at myself and thinking: what the hell I did I behave? HDI because I'm kinder and more respectful to others! Why the Internet changes the way people? Anonymity melts brain? What is unacceptable of others' opinions, even wrong? Why rush at once as vultures, bites like a pack of stray dogs who came as a redneck beer stand? RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Dear RAID74, and you toss "pieces of 10-15 references to my comments some years ago, which will allow you to redirect my questions to me on a theme of" why so much swearing, "and we immediately begin to AVSIM kinder. Please be kind enough to find a similar, very much hope your glubokoporyadochnost ilyatim, 16 years ago, #
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Yes, I agree with you RAID74, and should be good and treat each other with great uvazheniem.Ved all of us here loved and one thing we do. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Listen to RAID74 (preferably very carefully, without emotion) - my answer under your comment here to see prices fully supports your idea that: "there is no need swear words at the forum. Maybe you just do not understand my point about the quotes with the word Bravo? I've supported you, and you are at it again. Now, about my comments: when a person puts not able or video that you think "trollizmom" or some other files that do not like It is your RAID74 and a couple dozen people, you jumped on him like a pack of ...... . (I will not write one, can guess), and rail at his last words over his shoulder. I had the imprudence to intercede, because thought and still think that this is not your thing, how and who sees his place in life and in the simulator in particular. set the assessment pointed to the error - go by, and you insult the people hurl ... Here are my comments and you are trying to give here, as "swearing" on my part. I do not understand - why did you lie? ilyatim, 16 years ago, #
Guys, why are you swearing here for the third consecutive day ...??? No one file at Avsime was not so much comments and such protracted discussions. ILAS, 16 years ago, #
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ilyatim - let's start with a clean slate? I admit my mistake in something where you can, and I was wrong. Dispose of their previous comments, and wish you:) it was not worth it to me to write here. had a personal. Well, yes I admit it. Yours. PS I was not going around which a "gang" - if people agreed with my opinion - is their right. See you in the virtual sky;) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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Yes, how much whining you can? Until when it upgraded? They have so many years that actually further exploitation, unsafe, there is an elementary metal fatigue, weakness, respectively konstruktsii.Chto Reclamation, but what else? In the white gloves on the rivets on shurupikam razbirat.U everything on earth has a natural end, the aircraft he was, as if someone was not for this obidno.A dream about the plane's museum, there are no problems, buy-doing. namen, 15 years ago, #
Americans are not so disposed of their old equipment. No need to inject into your ears that way any longer. Old airplane simply cut and technological size sockets. This is for obvious reasons byuystree and not so pitiable looks - and it is .... It's just ublyudstvo !!!!! Alexander318i, 15 years ago, #
Ha-ha-ha. Look at the site of a film about the disposal of American aircraft. There break them even more fun than here. And something weeping crowd of woodpeckers there. Stakan, 15 years ago, #
и откуда вы такие берётесь? ценители "прекрасного" HowardAviation, 14 years ago, #
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It would be better, that he stood in the airport has become rotten and occupied too much space? Will remain your Tupolev yet, the more they are still flying. You want our government created the Museum of the Tu-154? and there would be standing all the planes of this brand? Yes, I know, shame that the plane was cut, but the yard in 2010, not 1990, when a Tupolev were snapped up. Fake, 16 years ago, #
It is a fact that Russian planes cut, and their replacement is usually black-ear Boeing aybusy. A decent replacement carcass and ilyushinskim no. a change in the machines, which are Age-such as 154 and 96. But the USSR was very strong aviation power until Gorbachev and Yeltsin still not swung. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Change in oldish machine just because our prices biting small AK can not afford financially to take the new aircraft Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
can say thank you to our officer. And to lay flowers at the grave make Yeltsin Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Yes, how did you realize this is terrible but it is hopeless shag.Nepro voobsche.Ya now you have to ask Fake, you do not never in my life have said farewell to his beloved kopeck piece when the Tu-154 takes you from there nee.Esli , then you and life is not videli.Vse connected with the Tu-154 and the romance of flight and the beauty is, well !!!!!!! Acman, 16 years ago, #
Acman, well said! Catch a little plus;) That's right say, and romance, and beauty, eh ... directly to the quick takes, when I see the 154th. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
hmm, what problems. Why do you now do not play a dandy? I remember how my parents had long since purchased it and I was sitting in her playing. I say that replaced the old always comes a new, Get over it, that's life. Fake, 16 years ago, #
And what is new? Foreign corporations? I know its something that would ... well nothing else. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
New is not always good. For example, there are amplifiers Tandberg, Telefunken 1970-1980 period. Equal to these devices are now not allowed, and will not be sure. They are in pursuit of the all new, not much is left (pochikali, cut). And their current owners simply lucky. The list goes on, because almost everything car-absolutely the same story, that now make even sell space for the money in comparison does not go with what was done in 80-s 90-ies - not everything new is luchshshim. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Fake, but I'm not against new technology and pro dandy govorit.Eto You do not have to if this uvlikaetes, then led away by Read More hmm do not need too call a spade a spade. Acman, 16 years ago, #
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This is one of the best cars "KrasAir". Even after the emergency landing in Rostov was in order. I respect the Tu-154M. штурмовик, 16 years ago, #
Granted, there is respect for what this aircraft. serg09, 16 years ago, #
Only the Tu-154 Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #
Tu-154B-2 from the point zreeniya better aerodynamics will be. As soon as the M-ke replaced trehschelevye flaps on two-slit, finally spoiled Stalled characteristics of the wing. B-scale is in terms of disruption of a stable, secure, and therefore, for these reasons that I love her more. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
But the M-ki and its advantages, has increased the input section of the inlet of the second engine, due to what his more steady work, especially when climbing on the train, plus the angle of the permutation. stab. And at the expense of the wing does not tell of course, in principle you are right, but more mechanization profiled on this plane better, in combination with new engines, especially during takeoff and landing. After disruption of the pogrom. layer occurs at the inflection maximum allowable angle of attack, and in the rules of flight operations of its rare and no one bend, with the exception of course of any specific emergency incidents. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
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Pity technique, of course ... But for some reason none of you on a typewriter text are not gaining ... And they want everything on inomarochkah brand new ride, and not Zhigulis and Uazikakh ... Of course, receiving a recycling barbaric, but, guys, let's not engage in anachronism ... Yes, a beautiful ... but no more. One only upset that the place of our Tu-154 will rise some 737 overseas-th or 320 th ... sergey5993, 16 years ago, #
Yes, that's talking about this b.. Acman, 16 years ago, #
But, again, God is with him, each airline itself can choose the type and brand of the aircraft, but our smaller and smaller. Acman, 16 years ago, #
And forgot to add sorry, I have a whole life was connected with the Tu-154, and separation and love and hard times in life zhizni.Vsya understand or not? Acman, 16 years ago, #
I agree completely with Acman Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #
Thank you. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Acman, of course I understand you! I myself terribly sentimental, but with technology I do for special ... I have this plane also insanely sorry. I'm a fan of the endless Soviet industry. Oh what a scoop technique was reliable and aesthetically beautiful (except for some moments). I am amazed by the mere fact. Why does the Boeing 737 went a lot of upgrades and still run, but we did Tu-154 appeared and all ... Can not answer, I know why ( sergey5993, 15 years ago, #
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but how do you think should be disposed of aircraft? carefully and under quiet music? aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
do not. Suffice museum around the world could, would send. I do not remember that-be at least one Concorde cut. All of Concordia museums are. And in Germany in the former GDR there also all IL-18 and the carcass and 62 dosihpor stand. They look really badly, but cost ... Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
everything is always different, we are the "most intelligent" Singapore, 16 years ago, #
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Sasha-ac, at least you think you know how my head? Concordes were produced only 20 units, carcasses same - close to 1000. but now Get your miserable fimozg and draw conclusions. aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
Dear aiRoNe, 1000 or 1000 do not be rude then do not. Our freaks even Tu-144 allowed under the saw. It appears that you have to strain your tiny brain, but take care not nadorvis, or else your head explode from a tiny habit to think before you write anything. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
What about the Tu-144, not all of course), we stand alone (in Samara), through 500 km of another (in Kazan), the MSC is in Germany, is one razbilsya.vot fate of the last ,6-th unknown to me Владимир Пахомов, 16 years ago, #
Sasha-ac good crap to flog, may still let en-2 Museums raspihaem? IMHO should be left to a pair of Tu-154 for the museums and the rest under the knife, enough whining already, like men, and behave ... all well knew that everything does not need more Bird nor anyone be that as it may hurt, she flew away her, everything has its time ... (I have nothing against the other 154 I have no naobarot very fond of him as a sime (PT) and in real because I fly it with 2 years of age every year, but you need to understand the obvious and not turn into whiners) Tu-154 is one year flies (same Utah), and only memory of him is exactly do not go away soon so that there is nothing catastrophic here ... pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
I think five years or more Poletayev or more, if not zapretyat-level authorities, such as 134 in Europe will not let the same, and yet Tupolev navalom.KMV, Dagestan, Utair, MIA-Schnick) Special teams are different, Kogalym, Ural, Alrosa list not konchaetsya))) Владимир Пахомов, 16 years ago, #
And then no one does not ache. I sbesila here this nonsense (and do you think should be disposed of aircraft? carefully and under quiet music?). And the fact that the author of the commentary on the person moved. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Vladimir Pakhomov, and where, if not a secret in the ICN is the 144th? I know in Monino there, but it's MO! Tony Longy, 16 years ago, #
and Monino 144 and cut. 144 there took place Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Ulyanovsk is 1. Tu134, 16 years ago, #
Sasha-ac - SHB aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
aiRoNe, excuse me, I have another orientation. So he seems SHB.Eto your vocation in life SHB. You have not even a tiny brain (too cool for you to be), and straw in tykvochke. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Young man, come on you a little precipitate horses, we all understand that you're a berry-shmyagoda. Tu134, 16 years ago, #
Tu134, you do not interfere. This is the case between me and a friend aiRoNe. Or he needs a defender? Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
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Looks like you both need a moderator))) Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
Yes I just infuriates srach this, tie the two. aiRoNe you do too, not a child is good, be smart. Tu134, 16 years ago, #
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Sasha-ac, despite the fact that the case is close to the clinical, I still try to prove to you who you are. So, you say that "the machine could, would have to fly, or could, be in a museum to give something." for information, T154 per flying hour laps around 4500kg of kerosene, 320 - 2200kg. the hell the airline needed the aircraft, refueling which will cost 2 times more expensive than foreign analogue? times when the fuel flowed almost out of the tap, are long gone. Now the cost of gasoline at more than 50% of airline costs. Further, why should the airline flight, which gives foreign car noise and comfort? if to some tushkodrocheru a pleasure to sit at the end of the cabin and listen to the roar D30KU throughout the flight, I do not think this is like the usual and ordinary passenger. go further. Do Airlines plane, which requires 4 people in the carriage when the A320 crew 2 person? probably only if the company has enough extra money to pay salaries to employees. In general, if the moth were needed fast and robust aircraft, now need a comfortable and economical. TU154 unprofitable lines, so it is written off and replaced by more profitable types. what do you suggest? you propose to leave them, because they stsuko, planes detstva, legends savetskogo aircraft industry and in general, the most beautiful and ahiritelnozvuchaschie? or you want raspihat them to museums, all of 1000? Well, build as many museums to start. so sit on his stool in front of the monitor and accepted the fact that nothing can be done. or carcass back to collect scrap metal can not, nor worthy replacement for them to do. can, of course, speculate about the Tu-154 and vent their vysery in kamentah, but they are very few people are needed and this is very few people care about. care unless the same as you tushkodrocherov. all because shit on you and your words. this is the reality, humble ... aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
aiRoNe. Here it is all about different things, I'm afraid you did not catch up, it is the soul of the aircraft, for example, I love this plane, it is an association with the best that happened in my life, what a dick on the economy, a kerosene, about what he would do it, then It's just different and it's time to understand that those who were born and raised in the USSR, shoulder to shoulder with these planes, it is very difficult to accept such a fact that there is no Russian (Soviet) aircraft, all magnus * p, * Th Fingering can boldly on the Airbus and Boeing, it's fashionable right now, but do not touch the soul of Soviet aviators ... DownSet, 16 years ago, #
aiRoNe, with regard to economical part of the plane I'm with you soglasen.Shum also agree and the number of people in the cab. With regard to comfort on board I not agree with you, I have been flying at 737,747,330 etc. I was not terribly udobno.V terms of comfort I have is better 154 or IL-86.Ili you have a lot of money that you have to earn on their cows and fly a class. And taught him Russian, and then write spelling oshibkami.Te data about fuel consumption etc. I, too well znakomy.Tak you tried to convince me who I am. So I do not understand who I am. Did you ever say or write something with a rethink their idea, and then say or write. I have a feeling that I was dealing with ball PP And actually there's enough personality to pass. We are not in your Svynarne. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
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What nafik soul? it is a piece of low-tech iron (21, ept in the yard ... wake up, oldfagi!) like the word "tushkodrochery":) to the point tranzit_il, 16 years ago, #
This is for you tak.Minus put me. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Comfort does not depend on the specific mozheli aircraft. Here is an example bayanny Yak-42. 2 companies - Georgian Airways and Donbassaero. First - soft leather seats Pts like eyrbasovskie, interior lining of some new plastic, almost no noise, 2 televisions hanging from the ceiling. And "Donbass" - rattling all parts of the fuselage, seats seemed wooden, plus crammed so that there could hardly sit down, and all covered with writing markers such as "Vasya was here." For all that, the Georgian yak was released in 1991, and Ukrainian under him for 5 years. Draw your own conclusions (AK politics, mentality, etc. etc.). Although it quietly written off - all the same design obsolete, and fuel efficiency is low for this class. Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
The mentality of this for our people, namely all that is produced here in Russia, just the same shit and all that the west is the quality and comfort. This bias to domestic appliances and leads to such a conflict between the Simmer and at home. Yes western craft easier to control and they are not as noisy and very economical, but in the end in Russia, too, is an engineer and a KB of our Soviet aircraft designers. Why not give them money and they gather under one roof candy. So no, we better be west licking ass. Yes of course it is time to write off 154, but not change them on the same 737 or 320. You can change them at 204, 334. So no. Monogim our fellow citizens in the joy of breaking, then, that the ten anniversary stroilos.I Russian aircraft-builders will schatlivy that their families will be fed. The banks in the country should change its policy. The most important thing is corruption must-have in the west pobedit.A AK correctly delayut.Oni save money on disposal of their waste, even old women earn. They refuse to go to Russia. This vseravno-that I sold the car, which is already 10 years and all vylaziyut A problem in old age. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Thank tell Peter I Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
Georgian_Airways, there is a lot to say !!!!!!! Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
The people, well, finish up already! What's so all alarmed? serg09, 16 years ago, #
I am not against the Soviet technology. I am opposed to whiners who snot spreading over its cancellation. people who have had this technique of direct relevance, such would not have otherwise. aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
3200, he eats in cruise mode, no need to invent ... Django, 16 years ago, #
And if we talk about 321 - 3800 per hour in cruise, so that's not the point. There is a 154th that CSKA carries you in it were, so I'll tell you a number of seats still just changed chairs, shelves and interior can not tell ... I have to half a ruble ratio and the 320 series, but simpler in operation 320, that the monkeys to poke buttons and put everything does not feel it. What to talk to foreign pilots to communicate, with mature, many have little good old alarm clock for body and soul, but that's another story ... Django, 16 years ago, #
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Barbarism and present ublyudstvo. Again, probably American tractor coming down our aircraft, aboard 85,005? serg09, 16 years ago, #
it does not matter what kind of tractor, a plane coming down. The fact remains that the car could have, would have to fly, or could-be in what a museum to give. This is the most natural barbarism. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Yeah, Tu-154B 85,005 cut in the VVC, did the same and the Tu-114 76464 at Domodedovo, but it was much earlier than the cut down Beshku. serg09, 16 years ago, #
Yes, that's when I learned the VVC that behu cut, much as it does not in itself was, pigs, the most natural pig did it ... Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
Tu-114 from Domodedovo also savagely cut ... PS tractor like a predator, eagerly tearing the body of the murdered victims. Anthony, 16 years ago, #
Anthony, that's for sure, just like a predator. Ravnmm, 16 years ago, #
And what is the Tu-114 prevented in Domodedovo ????????? or anyone?? Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Probably the same as I and OCE Beha prevented ((Grebanye. .. Tony Longy, 16 years ago, #
Yes, I Tu-144 pomnyu.Esche child byl.Oni in Alma-Ata letali.Pomnyu, coming in to land, all emerge posmotret.Fantastika how handsome he is. Acman, 16 years ago, #
As for Tu114 and Domodedovo. Then said that would be parking, there is no such place, but right now everything is already cleared, even the pedestal was removed and all ... nothing there anymore. = ((( ILAS, 16 years ago, #
It is only us vozmozhno.Navernoe more nowhere. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Once there came the topic of junk, there's really little comfort during the flight, noisy engines from which burst the membrane, narrow passages, the old (but still reliable) technology, which had to be improved. Exactly what was needed. We are to blame themselves put aviation on his knees, and now paying the price. It's like a boomerang, but the creators of our airplanes here is absolutely not touch, they are not their fault that their aircraft old and decrepit, they only praise for such an honor created a miracle. After all, we ourselves have launched their aircraft. serg09, 16 years ago, #
Oh, and not only on his knees, and nizhe.Kak we do not understand that we have it (aviation) there is little. Acman, 16 years ago, #
aiRoNe, you are not too lazy to documents izuchit.Nasha carcass, I'm talking about the TU-154M, eats hour flight, an average of five thousand shestsok killogramm.A, Airbus or Boeing 3200. Acman, 16 years ago, #
Hence the ratio by three quarters, eating more than a watermelon or a vacuum cleaner. serg09, 16 years ago, #
It is not in etom.Prezhde what you should say, to learn and documents pochitat.V, that is the difference from simple Seamer labotryasa. Acman, 16 years ago, #
4700 kg / h Mk eat. 5400-5700 - is B2. bocman, 16 years ago, #
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Evaluation is not a video, and author. Go to airlines.net, beautiful and loving people take off their aircraft abroad, our same - all one by one: scrap metal, and vandalism of man, nice beautiful aircraft can not shoot? or do not want? d-g-s, 15 years ago, #
but where does airlaynerz, beauty and photography recycling aircraft? on your strange logic - an urgent need to remove all videos of accidents and incidents. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
Dear dgs This video has been laid out for people to see what happened with the aircraft which have a life and who could fly and fly. Just the company went bankrupt and have done so with virtually all aircraft of the company. It was sad to see it all. Would be at that moment a beautiful aircraft took off to beautiful. Jakut, 15 years ago, #
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my friends, than to swear, oh cut, destroy ah ..... think about that slaughter and destroy ... forth to - to be scrapped .... another thing when destroying monuments aviation industry - here it is worth considering .... Ди_Джей, 15 years ago, #
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Since the aircraft has, alas, and there is a monument, a monument to aviation industry! And in our country, alas all over ass or who do not need our aircraft, in place in order to create air museums in different regions of the country's better to destroy, so soon without any aviation history will remain ... Eyakuba, 15 years ago, #
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Of fanaticism can go mad. Komenty amused:) gospodin, 15 years ago, #
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At exactly. Give each regional center for the Tu-154 for a monument to every Seamer could make the pilgrimage and prayer. ) Crashboy, 15 years ago, #
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The point that is not bigotry, or simply sit in a tank and drive the crap distorting the invalid, for many it is the remains of a happy period of childhood and the plane left for many happy moments, and you then turn and chase blunt about what that fanaticism ... DownSet, 15 years ago, #
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Good God! Read impossible to comment! One: "Bobby taxis" "Watermelon" fly! "Second:" F furnace Bourgeois aircraft forward fifty dollars! "We need to treat each other with respect! The plane that I think the P-R-E-K-P-A-P-H-N-M! Alas, it is not upgraded! Just Same Airbus went so far thanks mnogogodovym developments and improvements of its liner! We have it all stopped and nobody does not want to move my ass! Appeared Tu-204. So I read on pcavia, that Demchenko cut off funding in favor of something new! What's New? When there is a wonderful old and it needs to upgrade and enjoy the flight to the Russian aircraft! Alas, the phrase "Russian aircraft" soon in CA will go down in history. Ponabezhali Aerbasovskie clever and poured all that stuff, that shit plane! Someone wrote that 80% are students! So you yourself going up in an airplane 20 years!! And I'll see how you parted with him just so! Helm in the hands not kept, the aerodynamics are not a boom boom, but the findings "good fishing rod, fishing rod shit" whale sculpture! This is really tupizm full! Have you ever notice how much it means to people a sound engine Tu-154! Санька-заЛЕТЧИК, 16 years ago, #
The first part of your post - and what a speech! 1. Doing need modernization, and setbacks do not ... As for the parting of our pilots - with difficulty parting only those over 40 - because English is not given to them and because they are baked onto the body to his plane. I repeat - talk to existing 25-30 years, who started with Tupolev and switched to Airbus (not Boeing and not Transaero :))... themselves all learn. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
and the sound .. sound excellent! will forever remember him, again and again starting in sime tupolenka! And happy (really). Well, at least so! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Alas, I have no such possibility. Believe the word. If you personally, I myself prefer to sit at the helm Aerobus. But the dip in the shit I think this plane is not permissible! He faithfully plowing more than a dozen years! Санька-заЛЕТЧИК, 16 years ago, #
Ie is not even the wheel) Санька-заЛЕТЧИК, 16 years ago, #
Well, I personally have not dipped this aircraft, I respect him, even love (you can look in my file archive of video goodbye aviaprad "- if the word does not believe it, then after the show - believe me for sure:) This is a great car - for his time! ... I just really look at things, because, like many here - perfectly understand why things are going and where his feet have grown and what scumbags in Moscow are engaged in (the word is not matershinnoe as the moderator said smart32 and its link to wikipedia, which means you can use ) ... This topic is discussed at the forum, though nepomnyu where ... I think in the topic about the death of the Polish President ... RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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I agree with you! Look at things must be really, I am also a realist, our country every year is sold abroad, more and more. It's a shame for the power, my heart bleeds. But yoly paladins bless me, must be respected, if someone finds someone that the plane that Mr. ***, then the opinion at least because of the respect for people, fly it, we must lay out a more restrained manner. Санька-заЛЕТЧИК, 16 years ago, #
And what sound D30 KU154! Just music! Артемий154М, 16 years ago, #
whether it is quieter decibel 20-30 ... Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
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More than sure that many of those here accused the nation and the owners of AK in the idiocy of their own, being the masters of the AK would have done exactly the same. Businesses for pity and snot will not build! Not that time. Whether you like it or not, but time poltosa passed. And they will be filing. Another issue that they can not be replaced from domestic appliances. And before you accuse the nation in general or specific people in the idiocy ask a question himself: "What I did, what would have happened differently!?" Денис Минаев, 16 years ago, #
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right now nabezhit potsreotnya such as Mikhail Stapanova and starts yelling that would leave a carcass, and yes even bought a couple of Bobby, and sawed significant because it is the first ** and not on airplanes, but they would be ponapokupali Tu-154b2, or better yet junk oh sorry Tu-104 and flew to the world!) pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
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Yes, gamer, Moscow and shines. Denis, but is it really so out of our machines have nothing to replace the 154? A 204/214? Do not say that this is bad airplanes, still can not believe it. :) Ру19300, 16 years ago, #
ru19300 And you want to say that I am in something wrong? Come on. Only the beginning of Honour (since you switched to a form of communication) comments below, and then talk crap. pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Nonsense you speak, no matter what is written below. In my understanding this: if a man went to the terms "potsreot", "Pindos" and the like, the two options: either he is stupid, or overly inflated self-importance. Electioneering. This is the first ... Second - indicative saw Bobby seemingly no one has yet offered, why do you these words? Third - what is the Tu-104, tell me, please? Ру19300, 16 years ago, #
Pro100gamer, from what I reshish potsreot or patriot? I just love this airplane, and no more. For me it is more convenient and safer in terms of passenger-below described in detail, why. I can add is that after patsanva pedagogical institutes with good English, pereuchennaya on Boeing and Airbus me confidence as a little inspired. I am better I will fly a Tu-154 with a squadron leader as the second pilot, and FAC th middle age. In our poltinikah mostly adults, experienced pilots fly with them, you know calmer. A patsanva properly fly a Boeing can not (ha ha), churning the wheels of lights. Being a patriot of the country, which was sold just silly. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Michael, there is not stupid to be a patriot of his country, even if you sold everything they could. Because patriotism must be nurtured, and not to wave his hand and say - well, once all these then I "will score" ... That's just until we swing, and will "puddle" and to resist - can not be broken. As soon as the whole country to say - patriotism - is nonsense. Then all. Then will zavernutsya in a sheet and quietly, without creating panic and crawl to the cemetery ... And so - let them steal. Sooner or later - turn into monsters, but must believe in the best! otherwise - what's the point to live? Come together suicide. That's how I think. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Be kind, do not confuse potsreotizm with patriotism as you all love to do it. pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
My dear, then explain what these two concepts are different Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Show me the finger at KVSa, who flew up, hit by lights? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Glass, remove))) it was:) but IMHO, this argument was presented by Michael is not in the subject and nothing. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
http://volgograd.info/news/vie​w.php?id=3583 Here pozhaluysta.Eto so on-vskidku. Finger will not show in the first place is not proper, and secondly, he was dismissed. Take-off pitch have not learned how to set even the young pi-lo-you. And why did not this work? It is even the subject. Well that all ended well, but if 120 souls to the hereafter set out, the topic would be? Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
agree, if I could, it would certainly not in the subject. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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And where were you all when exactly the same as this Tupolev, cut off the Soviet Union? And now everything, "too late to drink Borjomi, where the buds fell off." The_Spirit, 16 years ago, #
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What are you so upset?) Is not always the same it fly Владимир Пахомов, 16 years ago, #
Vladimir, if a bit of work though not the same, but at least the same type at least a year, then that's not going to be upset when he saw a breaker board. Fulcrum83, 16 years ago, #
I understand that this is not a little work, but you also when you sell your car, or rent out a wreck, will save money, the plane is the same machine, only the complex, which also has a resource, otherwise it would be dangerous, I think Iran knows what old Tupolev) Владимир Пахомов, 16 years ago, #
need to bury him whole in the ground =) so some sad spectacle ... Tu134, 16 years ago, #
Joking aside, boys ... Lyrics: in the year before the windows of my office as cut 65970, aboard, who had been drinking I have a lot of blood and sweat, which, among other things, I was in charge. The soul inside would go out ... Fulcrum83, 16 years ago, #
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What are all the smart ... Make the museum .. Give to the museum ... the collision of emotions, as many cheers. Yes, look unpleasant, but what to do with it? This is rubbish, taky exactly the same as you carry forth from home each day. This aircraft will be worth it served its purpose, its content will further yield losses. Therefore it must be discarded. And as a type, 154 of no particular historic interest. The usual, nothing outstanding liner. In addition, not rare, and the mass, of which there still a lot of flying, and in museums lack. Why worry for? Eh, probably many here present have no idea what a base eliminate aircraft. That's scary, that's really the factory of death. With thousands of aircraft with a huge stock of the resource, the regiments of able-bodied rounded up to one airfield, and carefully, methodically, the hands of those who have served their purpose and lifted into the sky, but still under the supervision of officers, inspectors from the NATO countries are dealt with, cut and shipped to And then melted down Delov then ... just one old ship ..)) But the method of disposal was surprised. As a neakkuratnenko. Do not be cut it into slices and lay a pile? Mordul, 15 years ago, #
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sorry there is nothing to assess the bird and yet able to fly and fly, Bobby and watermelon is nice but these machines are all the same folks, if Bobby would have laughed so cut and here ................. .................................. stalker505, 16 years ago, #
And what kind of nafig love of aviation after these words you speak? " gomza, 16 years ago, #
gomza, Tupolev aircraft to no end, that's news, yes? TaPo4eG, 16 years ago, #
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news because the news:))) is interesting and comrade stalker505 also will laugh if, God forbid Bobik or watermelon break? gomza, 16 years ago, #
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and what is blasphemy?? it is that the cogs on a team of workers had to disassemble? normal waste and outdated aircraft (with rare exceptions) and there is waste. pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
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Do not argue, for the time the plane was great, but it may be enough to yell that the Tu-154 should be left on the lines. The aircraft flies with 60-ies, he more than 40 years, nobody will be put on the line. All the major operators in Russia have refused it. He Poletayev another 5-7 years and leave the ground. Something no one overseas does not favor Boeing 727, and the car is almost identical. Give me a place for new planes Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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New aircraft? I wonder how? Not so I already flew 10 years in Europe or the ugly 737 - e Boeings? These pieces th ** and get a place in our skies to fly? Disposing of the Tu-154 and did not attempt to recover their production in Russia is simply a modernized version of chmoshnaya country by killing the last legacy that was left after the Soviet Union, let us fly to the fact that Europe and America has not managed to cut)) DownSet, 16 years ago, #
plus adyn serg09, 16 years ago, #
727-th still flying be healthy to feature sides from private companies, about the trucks generally silent. It is a pity that in his time had not bothered to upgrade Tupolev flew to "truck" so far. But then it was not before, then sawed the country ... Rost, 16 years ago, #
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Then why is no one proposes to modernize penny or Moskvich 412? A? All at once grip the nose and crying about the fact that our auto industry barn, and drive foreign cars. Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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In general, it seems that half of the site only by abbreviations "Tu-154" comes a powerful orgasm Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Kostya and it's true, and not half a percent of some sort 70-80 on a hum ... patient unit pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Well would have bought a normal, a new bourgeois, buying dilapidated shit, too, do not buzz, agree? Old change to the old stuff, even funny))) serg09, 16 years ago, #
And who said that the foreign cars much good? Believe me, it's my job profile. Shit is that! Even something that is sold for space money. They can not really do it! Less make machines spetsprofilnye for not just lowbrow and members of the Government (Maybach, etc.), the rest is just to just be like something. I'm sure we could have done better if it had not engaged in such garbage as the imposition of a duty (in his pocket) import cars. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
DownSet, at least these pieces of shit like you vyrozilis less shitting in "your" heaven. Grixa_95, 16 years ago, #
Dear Grixa_95, so I'll skazhu.Mozhno change machine on which I now ride for 10 years and it has already crawled out some of what failure in old age. Me I do not want it. Let me explain why. 1 I have money only podderzhunuyu tachku.2 poderzhenuyu I do not take themselves, the reason I think everybody will understand why I do not know who went to a particular machine and what its technical problems and what other budut.Ya in his car know every sound, to supporting a car the sounds I hear knocking or let's say a year later, when the warranty has finished. And do not lzya forget that cars have almost every 30000km. drive to the station to change brakes, oil and belts. This is what I say to that, and the technical condition of aircraft must follow. And the fact that we are changing the junk on the junk. Repair of foreign kravtov AK costing much more expensive than domestic aircraft. I understand if the AK-be changed to their new planes 154, etc. I think it-would be less noise. Lufthansa alter their planes only nove. Lufthansa now has written off a few 747-400 and changed them on the A 380. And has been waiting for 747-800 models. And on the less garbage in the air or less. Our people this is not when it is not interested. Or you grinpisse. I'll tell you why the Russian AK Steel orders placed on the western rubbish. One reason the European Union made zapred on Russian aircraft production except for IL-76, AN-124 and AN-225 and IL-86 and Tu-154 are banned because co-very noisy, and our trucks like to use. and then the Russian perevozschiki thinking that they will no longer fly to the west. And then they began acquiring a western waste, something to somehow exist. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
And what prevents them from buying new B and A? Our laws and attitude Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
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Why do we cut our aircraft and fly to the car? Yes, because when buying foreign shit on the cheap, people are getting huge kickbacks in the pocket, but with our aviation industry to take what? NOTHING! Therefore, it does not exist already and will not be nearly anything and will not, because not stealing the country are reviving! Vladimir_76, 16 years ago, #
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It is difficult of course to watch, alas, are bidding farewell to the remains of the great Soviet aviation, goodbye Bird ... I will miss them in the sky ... DownSet, 16 years ago, #
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Comments on the video - the arena for those wishing to measure their size of their love for "poltosu:) Stop whining and railing. It was an excellent aircraft, but it is not for the XXI century. KirillS, 16 years ago, #
or measure their size of their MPH)) Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
chsv RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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Break not build ... ILAS, 16 years ago, #
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Довольно интересно, хотя если честно грустно. Но в целом, это естественная смерть любого самолета. Сам факт, что он дожил до утилизации говорит о том, что это хороший самолет, но его время ушло. Жаль только, что несмотря на суествующие боевые проекты (Ту-204/214/334 и тот же Ил-96) на смену идут иномарки. Monsterwing, 14 years ago, #
Just like the exponential destruction of entire Soviet. Somehow not seen such pictures with Boeing. Do not we love her for some reason ... Ashamed. Alexander318i, 15 years ago, #
Well, why is this video, and the Americans are standing in the desert, are rotting in the sun, some more or less surviving copies contrive Russian Ivan vparit namen, 15 years ago, #
Sorry! Zorgair, 15 years ago, #
Assessment not going to put as will some 10 years and now and then if avsim will remain in place (and he will!), Put 10 so as this video can already be bidding to begin. Do not be surprised if we say, in 2030 the much-loved shkolota such videos will sell avsime ... only then will you pay for hosting .... Roma1364, 15 years ago, #
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Could be the model where a thread to put people to go into the cockpit, see four-thread, so Nooo WE ITS BETTER TO METAL cut myself! Sorry for the aircraft. Ил-76, 15 years ago, #
Would have done better than a thread of a large museum of Russian aircraft! For input 10 p. and walk Skok want and the income will be more than scrap metal! Ил-76, 15 years ago, #
We have Arseniev too near the plant were Il14, en-8, Tu-134, the next mayor threatened in 2008 aviamuzey open, but alas, as far as I know them already cut or have cut the nail. whitman, 15 years ago, #
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The horror ... Nesa007, 15 years ago, #
Adults and adequate people understand that recycling is a necessary measure, and do not do what the leaders of these vandals. And let the rest continue to bang on the keyboard a Tu-154 class aircraft. Only now he sime cool and looking beautiful. At this all the beauty ends! No need to go into details, we should understand that it does not meet the requirements of today. And to finish and redo not luchschy out for many reasons. Tim24, 15 years ago, #
De facto, this resource glider gouging into pieces, put into scrap metal in order to pay with the debts of defunct companies. noma3ok, 15 years ago, #
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I certainly understand the patriotism of domestic aircraft, and especially to the Tupolev, himself was such, but if you look at the truth, it will only agree that the 737 over all pairs of tram better ...... it's a modern aircraft with modern and dvigatelmi digital avionics ...... Tupolev even have just about obsolete, it is not economical, maklimalny takeoff weight of 100 tons, I do not know even one such aircraft, so for medium-range aircraft tbyla Triaxial main stand, and all because of the weight He rolls himself, for comparison, take a look at a Boeing 737-800 passenger Bered more, weight less, and what cost ....... bezsporno here ... all of this ..... ALEX CLINE, 15 years ago, #
It's all really bezsporno. But the conversation about what is not in such circumstances and not for reasons such board must be disposed IMHO. Such aircraft should go nicely. noma3ok, 15 years ago, #
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737-800 talking about? Well, if 800 ... And then there ponastavili instead of 154 x 737-500, but A-318-319 ... This is equivalent to, if instead of government ZIL-115 bought a Chevrolet Lanos. A Th? Foreign car is it? Foreign Car! More modern, let alone what cost! So unequal substitution turned out. Just to replace the 154 and had to be 737-800 (900), or A-320 (321), and not those obrubyshi. Duke3D1981, 15 years ago, #
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The only plus Boenga economy and all! A 12 wheels of smaller break the band, less than unit load, which is not vsledsvie capriciousness to the band. Your number does not exceed the electrical engineering, 104t takeoff, he takes as much as you and Tupolev Paxil! By the way By the way, and how much it costs 738, eh? and how much is 154? Well count cost-effectiveness ... Current moschny AK can pull it! So that the policy bans 154, leads to our old foreign car market ... So, 737 is not a panacea, a drug that our market has accepted our AK quietly go bankrupt and come to the Russian land burzhky with his AK, totally! That's when all the thought of 154 ... Of course they do not last forever, but not a dime invested in the modernization and all over the hill on the A and B, watering Poltava dirt and mud! What is now the proud, the country's largest in the territory does not have a Aviazavoa and series! If I had to at least one 737 would not have bought the AK and gave to oazrobotku 154-100 or 154MK .. Another 737, not buying, would raise a series of EDO Tu, oh, how would certainly everything was different! But koiu to the future .. Capitalism does not know the word Motherland! Profit is everything .. aircraft for the kickbacks, the life of kickbacks ... Vobschem nothing personal! NStK, 15 years ago, #
look no regrets impossible. good side was ... At his send more after Norilsk Nickel. noma3ok, 15 years ago, #
like pieces of flesh tearing Andreas-URMT, 15 years ago, #
sorry ... tupol154b2, 15 years ago, #
He watched and wept. ((( Denismalikov, 15 years ago, #
Video sad ... But the comments - Petrosian resting =))))))))))) UHWW, 15 years ago, #
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It's a shame not even that being cut (in the end people will also decompose after death, but we do not shout that Mother Nature inhuman), but the fact that the Russian aviation industry is really not ready to give anything in return. Even that could be created on the basis of developments of this most carcasses, does not develop and is ignored. And Boeing and Airbus planes are normal, the lobby of their company FlightOff27, 16 years ago, #
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How cruelly cut such a machine? " I am not to understand one, why buy from America 50 Boeing 737, but if our aircraft are well suited for regular flights! Honestly, Tu-154M is the most successful and most reliable aircraft of all time! Shipyard Aviacor in Samara restore the Tu - 154, but why not restore this aircraft than to buy some - some "Boeing" or "ayrbas?? That's one language only: Kozlov! Артемий154М, 16 years ago, #
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already read the disgusting potsreot pancake Jeno, 15 years ago, #
Potsreot say ... Words "rollback" and "bribe" in our beloved country will live forever! Boeing itself has admitted that bashlyal through tax returns! U Aviakor these attendants do not have, because in the ass! "But why so here ... victr3756, 15 years ago, #
Jeno you of what this slang ass ripped? Learn how to start properly formulate his thoughts with the right words "Patriot" and not something that you are there vybleval ... For many, this aircraft is the best that was in history and in life and in our time of degenerates many simply do not understand. DownSet, 15 years ago, #
Jeno - yes I watch you from all the views barf pulls, which do not coincide with your wretched ... Sick you say? Well duck stoop down over ochkom, yes zhahni heartily PRODERE ... Che suffer then? Because of these wretched as you and your whole essence of rotten - we all have what we have. Namely - a solid purchase from behind a hill, and the rejection of all native, native. Duke3D1981, 15 years ago, #
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It seems like a predator caught a prey, and eating) PS: "Birdy sorry" ( Leonidos, 16 years ago, #
Buying a new gelding from the old shahi disposed. 21 in the yard. The carcass flew away. Valeroyd, 16 years ago, #
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Better a new Tupolev than zachuhanny Bobik. serg09, 16 years ago, #
best new Lada 2107, as second-hand car?? Bullshit! New Tupolev - if modernized - then yes. And so - no. RAID74, 16 years ago, #
You car with the aircraft do not compare, they were nowhere near. serg09, 16 years ago, #
Even if not upgraded. We somehow took away the Chinese Bobik, who soon collapsed with Pax, he was clearly not a couple of months. serg09, 16 years ago, #
No need to compare the aircraft to automobiles, carcass flew away just because the country they scored, if today was the Soviet era is sure to fly a carcass for a long time and long ... DownSet, 16 years ago, #
anyone with sight problems? Well, I wrote - if the carcass up - then - YES! And you can even Warana! I communicate with the pilot's actions. That's from today's correspondence ace, for example: "They sat in the DMD on the 7th, in the morning, the visibility is almost zero (A320 - prim.avt.)" "Dime, well, anyway easier than if the same thing, but the TU154? A: "Bazaar NO! In Tupolev we have a spare left immediately, only problem was that all supplies (balls, Pulkovo, lower - prim.avt.) Shut down when we passed Kiev ..." Anyone else out Simmer wants to bet on "convenience" with the Tupolev TZ pilots? Can u Denokana with L. Lehoy ask? RAID74, 16 years ago, #
but the fact that the AK are not buying new and slightly used foreign cars, and old junk, counterfeiting documents, so it sooovsem another theme - for the forum and not here:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Well, at the expense of upgrading 154 answer that has nothing to upgrade his life upgrade (like the so-called Correct if that) has been exhausted is not a fighter which can be converted to other tasks should be the new design. And in fact there were projects such as the Tu-414 was? There were other projects were in the other CB ... But we do because as always bury both their (forgive me moderators for another to say does not work) An_Shaitan_24, 16 years ago, #
An_Shaitan_24 - under the modernization meant more - is taken, is going on at the New Tu-154, but with new engines, new system of monitoring and control, navigation, electronics .... This (which is the saddest and funniest) have all been designed (on paper, but something even in the form of existing copies) in the Tupolev Design Bureau. Guess why not put into the development? ... RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Why, there even guess nothing = An_Shaitan_24, 16 years ago, #
This (which is the saddest and funniest) have all been designed (on paper, but something even in the form of existing copies) in the Tupolev Design Bureau. Guess why not put into the development? ... ANSWER: Yes, 'cause our directors are gene carriers have no respect for our technology! Артемий154М, 16 years ago, #
Well, pancake people, I do not understand. Che you swearing without reason. Broke open the carcass who put together and started. And created the view that there simply a gathering of aviators racists, and right here would really Pindos bad about Tupolev or someone else so no we are all RUSSIAN! and you slander one another Soviet, Russian .... And from what? Because of the pipe duraluminum? 0_o Well is not that beautiful insanity lyudi.Podumaesh did think the wires filled with surveillance ... well, she flew away its not that the same forever. And the fact that some of it was said to end with a large carcass and others say the least of She is not happy it's not a reason to quarrel like dogs, the taste and color of the markers is different. An_Shaitan_24, 16 years ago, #
holivar on Tupolev against Boeing's last forever))) Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
Oh byadya byadya ....=( An_Shaitan_24, 16 years ago, #
Pity the car! Recently, it has seen a whole. ABC, 16 years ago, #
Most do not. Already on the third stage on Friday stood. Jakut, 16 years ago, #
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Five of the author video. Interestingly, with the crew so the same thing? Gennn, 16 years ago, #
Of course, but nafiga still need pilots if the aircraft is not, of course, they also sawed. pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Brain rendered. serg09, 16 years ago, #
to us at the Department of Pathological Anatomy)) Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
xj pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Crews were still trying to dislodge their honestly earned money ... Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #
But it is unlikely they will have ... Georgian_Airways, 16 years ago, #
country is so unique. Sasha-ac, 16 years ago, #
Team Tupolev - RESPECT! Артемий154М, 16 years ago, #
The plane, for the pilot, as his own child. His first board, he remembers all his life. Psychologically, people certainly going through, when he sees a plane is on the wreck. alshe, 16 years ago, #
One might say - the best friend, who happens, and life saving alshe, 16 years ago, #
Or vice versa will take her. Grixa_95, 16 years ago, #
Those pilots who survive usually saves. Otherwise, no one will survive alshe, 16 years ago, #
Feast during the Plague ... daewooo, 16 years ago, #
And show me even one video, a blasphemous mockery on "Bobby, or bass, I have not seen odd .... daewooo, 16 years ago, #
Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=nzUxxuaLMPw&;feature=PlayList&p=E42FE9413E357B64&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=73 gomza, 16 years ago, #
Here it is, mustachioed and bespectacled butcher aircraft))) Detalki airplane phones and telecom are ... xD serg09, 16 years ago, #
Evaluate there is nothing, do not know how to keep anything, too much space occupied by a proud bird Tupolev. Here and officials did not take long to wait. Oleg22, 16 years ago, #
Scary to watch! Like a vulture eats dead flesh !((((( t@r@n, 16 years ago, #
Very sad. Some 2 years ago, the platform was filled with some of Krasnoyarsk Krasouski carcasses, and I thought that this would be at least another 10 years Reagent, 16 years ago, #
I agree everyone looked very, very beautiful when flying "fan" carcass landed one after another, and also flew ... Eyakuba, 16 years ago, #