SamoletBoing 737 VP-BKO, flies from Permi, the day before tragedii.Pokazana not synchronized automaton tyagi.Snyato FAC 9/12/2008 Perm-Moscow
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and where it says that this is the airplane? pavel1, 15 years ago, #
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This one. LLHA, 15 years ago, #
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Listen, Aeroflot 824 DESCEND 3000 Doktor, 15 years ago, #
Dr. ... 824 - a flight number, rather than bortnomer Sun RAID74, 15 years ago, #
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but that can not hear the pilot say? Aeroflot 824 ... Lexis, 15 years ago, #
This is the flight number. mikuz, 15 years ago, #
Well, yes it is the flight number! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
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and that ... ... to let the catastrophe has neither a otnoscheniya ... NStK, 15 years ago, #
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Nuu hello, I have this video in a month after the crash probably already seen, since he had already sailed inetu daily activities .. I'm surprised that there are still those who do not videl.Ego posted pilot AFL Nord! It's the board, from FAC 09/12. 08 Perm-Moscow. poka4anu, 15 years ago, #
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Do not believe zhurnalyugam NTV channel, how often have these peppers from a finger sensation sucked! Was Andrew Rasbash. he understood in the aviation industry. Now it's just a journalist who Curl64, 15 years ago, #
Do not have time to finish writing ... IMHO, the transfer of "Aviator" on NTV became much worse without a professional facilitator. And I would have been able to learn to operate the helicopter is not worse than the leader. And the soul transfer some left. Rasbash could seek out such nuances in aviazhizni who became interesting in itself. And now we offer a hodgepodge of hackneyed plots and hackneyed visuals. Curl64, 15 years ago, #
Do you strongly dislike, and enjoy their dislike. On you, too, will say good, then. About how you snot munching, like all ))))) Curl64, 15 years ago, #
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Five for the comments! Pleased. bocman, 15 years ago, #
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Who was the first state that the pilots were under the degrees? Stakan, 15 years ago, #
You may be right, but how else to explain the strange behavior and intonation pilots killed? goaley, 15 years ago, #
were just sleepy CAT_III, 15 years ago, #
and alcohol in the blood, so it's a dream a dream! Zorgair, 15 years ago, #
What Sorge cons? He's right - in the conclusion of IAC words can not erase. There's clearly a fool, after tapping ER that FAC - as a fiddler. It's a pity more: the thought of what the EP? Damn. On dead or well, or in any way. The kingdom of heaven, and God be their judge. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
I lay back after the interception opinion - FAC was not drunk. mikuz, 15 years ago, #
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Yes, of course, he was just tired. So tired that he could not at the end of two sentences relate to the question the EP "What do we do?" simply kept silent from exhaustion, and then keeled over from exhaustion left .. together with the aircraft. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
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Yes, something like this happened. A slumped - both responded to the alarm "BANK ANGLE". mikuz, 15 years ago, #
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the conclusion of the MAC: Mean levels of ethanol in isolated sites (1.08 ‰) and the objects of the fragments (1.19 ‰) body FAC, significantly exceeding the above figures are at 0.46 ‰ and 0.96 ‰, allow us to establish the presence of ethyl alcohol in his body before he died. Desma, 15 years ago, #
And what have the voice? mikuz, 15 years ago, #
problems with the automatic tyagi.ne understand what does this have to do this probleme.deystvie going to have to eshelone.prosto vyklyuchit.my same technique does not believe need to shoot. this is not the board. KOPASOVMU, 15 years ago, #
Roller normal. discussion as the death of the Permian side is in fact unfounded gossip. At all need facts dear, not speculation. Express thoughts, proves desirable arguments with reference to the source of both the Permian aircraft (the fragments) and methodological literature, the assumptions do not need them quite enough. Борт174, 15 years ago, #
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Sorry board ... Артемий154М, 15 years ago, #
And this is exactly the plane? it's just a day before the tragedy? olega154, 15 years ago, #
I Th something I do not understand - where until now no doubt that the FAC was nikakuschy? You che, recording the talks have not heard? It clearly heard that the man was drunk in a trolley! фрост, 15 years ago, #
All sorts of different ways people think, work colleagues, etc., and a lot of gear there. Maybe drunk, but can and does work on the wear and fatigue on the voice said! Who knows! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
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If a person does not speak rapidly, it does not mean that he was once "drunk on the trolley! And this phrase, replicated channels, "You see, I can not, after tapping the talks gained a completely different meaning. mikuz, 15 years ago, #
Here's my personal opinion that he was sober! In Moscow, it would be on the flight no one has put in such condition that a drunk in a trolley is not possible to determine! else if in flight so drunk! But it is also not an option! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
My father in 2001 happened at night microstroke. In the morning he could not string two words together. It was not clear. When he spoke on the phone companion heard it a drunken man. The pilot (he is also a man) can happen to an attack. These cases were. Even fatal. Therefore believe that non-drinking people drinking straight up in the sky can only indoctrinate people TV and other "authoritative" sources. susanin, 15 years ago, #
Here here! " And we, as people here are all loving to all aircraft of the soul, should not doubt that they were sober! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
Ohhh ... and then the pilots are drunk gentlemen! Do not be stupid illusion! And the love of aviation from it have not diminished! halny, 15 years ago, #
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That's all hard about the presence of alcohol in crew ..... Tell me, how among so huge amount of debris can be determined that this was a FAC was the presence of alcohol in the blood? Really were the fast analysis and examination of DNA etc.?? UR-26077, 15 years ago, #
Those who defend the "sobriety" version simply do not understand what it actually worse than drunk. That is, it turns out that the PIC so wildly he dropped the plane, being sober as clean as a whistle. As for me, the "drunk" version is more loyal. FireFly, 15 years ago, #
Yes you can! If you are interested then here)) Galitsky FA Expert evaluation of ethanol formation in biological systems. - Akmola, 1997. - 79. Format DjVu. http://www.sudmed.ru/index.php​?showtopic=4597 The book presents the theoretical and practical aspects of the possible formation of ethanol in the carcass and in the capture of biological objects with a number of conditions, diseases and injuries of the human body, including under the influence of extreme factors. Doktor, 15 years ago, #
Literature, it is certainly good, well, still saw the photos from the crash site, in the same pi ... u complete !!!!!! How is it possible to find something ?????? And in general, not only in this disaster, and in any similar nature .... UR-26077, 15 years ago, #
FireFly certainly not in the blood and in tissues! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
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Read many forums on this topic, many experts believe differently, but most people think that in the tissues (usually muscle) really could be the presence of alcohol. But clearly can not tell! And on TV hex Zhurnalyugam main rastreschat! Doktor, 15 years ago, #
"Permi" bad very bad ... Andogen, 15 years ago, #
I'm sorry (( Doktor, 15 years ago, #
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so sad! olex0239, 15 years ago, #
I understand the crew of the other MaximGG, 15 years ago, #
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No comment! anton81, 15 years ago, #