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An excerpt from the movie "Kandahar" off the floor with strips of IL-76, at the last moment of this movie ... my eyes filled with tears because I did not know the format converted to MP4 for quality not answer .. movie downloaded from the torrent for 3 days ....
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→ Date: 16 years ago (24.02.2010 18:14)
→ Author: Режиссер Андрей Кавун
→ Uploaded by: Karstar (uploaded 55 files )
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 5 
I liked the film. I advise not only to lovers of 76-th, the film is not about the plane, but people ... KirillS, 16 years ago, #
totally agree .. qip88, 16 years ago, #
About the plane here markups below speech is not going (well, as is but part) is a film and not video tutorials IL-76 in two weeks with KirillS Strongly Agree denpilot, 16 years ago, #
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All very good nochi.Pishu redko.No this story touched, such as the quick, and very expensive. Personally menya.Vot read reviews, people who looked so beautiful film.Puskay there are any mistakes on the part of the director and the people who filmed this film.No how to evaluate these things for five and ten-point sisteme.Lyudi who have been through it that was held this heroic crew, nor when this would not have delat.A then obtained as the PA market who bolshe.I as if there is not a situation, honor and praise this rebyatam.Preklonyayu to them his head, and wish them health and happiness pure heaven! Lex1, 15 years ago, #
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 5 
IMHO the last year the best film. When looking at the movie theater, after taking off the whole audience standing up clapping until the end. Grixa_95, 16 years ago, #
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For something that tried to pull out of the movie is not the essence, would be better if you took those instantaneous when the crew after takeoff into the sky looks so if you were closer to the evaluation of 5, but the film's true 5! And forgive me dear as said KirillS film eptyt not mean that the IL takes off and lands RICO, 16 years ago, #
but what I really said that the film about IL? I put this very moment because about aircraft and about aviation ... would be a different site on the topic, I would put the film weight. Karstar, 16 years ago, #
then I apologize, but it is thin. film)))) No offense. RICO, 16 years ago, #
Yes, and "Crew" too, and remember, this is a new film and not everyone saw. Karstar, 16 years ago, #
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insanity grows stronger. In its genre film does not claim 100 percent reality of what is happening, for that there are documentaries. And it served as the material - a deal the director. Regarding Kolchak. History must know not only the one-sided. Sometimes it is necessary to see and on the other side. " Otherwise Kolchak gold exported ... Reds are good, the bad and white, etc. etc. Enough already ... Rulez, 16 years ago, #
yes, maybe sample_text history and no need to point fingers? as if all right and those responsible for today's troubles no? so quite simply be:) good idea, but I do not intend to justify himself to anybody. Who does not benefit the fatherland is not CAN BE HEROES! GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Regarded as a traitor heroes? Yushchenko did so recently awarded the title Hero of Ukraine Bandera. YOU AGREE THAT he is a hero? After all, one must look at history from another point of view. Indeed, maybe the Germans should once more in the 39-m to surrender? certainly interesting, as it were then we have lived? YES? or would not be living. HISTORY OF THE ONE, DOES THE TRUTH AND THE ONE! and enough bastards who think only about their profits for the hero to take! GeK397, 16 years ago, #
would be better instead of arbors who took it for the texture of the board of the film, Rus AviaTrans Export bearing the number RA-76842 Karstar, 16 years ago, #
but now this board is now such hue and color similar to that in the movie was not at all ... http://www.airliners.net/photo​/Aviacon-Zitotrans/Ilyushin-Il​-76TD/1528311/L/ and have my doubts that it ever RUS AVIA TRANS EXPORT, understand why. and in 1995 was just such http://www.airliners.net/photo​/Airstan/Ilyushin-Il-76TD/0185​191/L/ color Karstar, 16 years ago, #
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gek - you will not benefit my country, you're not a hero. At the bride-price (under Stalin) for 25 years! nor ** o! And Kolchak - scoundrel - trying to save the capital from the "red", which immediately this whole "honest expropriate capital" on the Swiss banks scattered, and the people forced to starve! Not need to rewrite history, but we must consider its objectivity. If he did so - hence the fact there were good reasons. Enough SRACH divorce - it all relates. Go to the chat RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Enough to tell others what to do! if deserved - BANTE, if not, good enough to endure. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
And I agree with GeK397. MAPC, 16 years ago, #
fellow /:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Да ~Anonymous~, 2 months ago, #
РЕСПЕКТ И УВАЖЕНИЕ КОНСТРУКТОРАМ САМОЛЁТА ЛЕТУНАМ ФИЛЬМУ!!!!!! ~Anonymous~, 7 months ago, #
When you approach the real 76842, can not believe it was him! Эрник, 15 years ago, #
 5 
Who's the pilot? You pilots? Chkalov pilot! And these guys ... destin, 15 years ago, #
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These guys are not pilots =) An_Shaitan_24, 15 years ago, #
 5 
for a feature film is very good (especially with the rather weak budget) Zikki, 15 years ago, #
 5 
For roller 5. A film by 4, because WFP in the movie not a bit like a real, and yet the first time when Serge was not allowed to board, I think the plane would have rolled over vzletke! And why a translator would like to run away with them?? Ил-76, 15 years ago, #
 5 
Well with dataprojektor graphics, they overdid, flying mud as a fighter, all what is not alive, but for the life story goes, if those pilots really so dangerous to take off, respect and honor. Wlad90, 15 years ago, #
As far as I know off quite another pass! citrus-94, 15 years ago, #
Much Easier to have a Doc / film, Escape from Kandahar, there is just taking off and, on this and tell the pilots, with half of the strip, but the film's true a little bragging effects, but what it seems that the rate of more than a device, then try to remove on a line from close range machine that raced at speeds of 210 km / h. .. the difference is not large, Karstar, 15 years ago, #
 5 
You know, I do not know about you, but first time I saw that at the end of the movie are completely different people do not run to the door to more quickly get into their cars, as well as one man stood up and three minutes (as they walked titles) APPLODDIROVALI!! Let a lot of fiction, the idea of the film 5 +. Vladimir747, 16 years ago, #
 5 
I'm certainly no fan of Russian films, but that I was very impressed! Therefore, only 5!! Nikd4, 16 years ago, #
 5 
The Afghans say that they gave them to fly. Perhaps that was the ... iwtb, 16 years ago, #
say that it is clear, by profession I cameraman director. and in 2003-2004 worked in th NTV cameraman, was in Afghanistan and Iraq with reporters, took off for war news and to chronicle the war is not something that shows a movie, and not so much in the news! It is 100%. In Afghanistan and Iraq were a lot of Russian and Armenian peacekeepers. mainly peacekeepers protect airports and major military installations. And as far as I saw what was happening in the war, I do not think that was not built theirs escape, and how fabulous it was taken and ran on his own plane. it would not be possible if ... Think for yourself, if someone served understand. (how could steal a tank from a military unit? or plane from the airport). Karstar, 16 years ago, #
Agreed. "East is - fine Petrukha" Eastern way of thinking much more viteevaty, and to analyze their motives and intentions which led to some event, we have different ways of Western manners and logic. Eastern people are not fools. And most likely the case can not be regarded as an ordinary slob. (This is not Russia)))) Sanovich, 16 years ago, #
 5 
for roller 5, and the film 3. speed 300, and flew as if the 900 ... the INS speed drops too quickly, in Reale they had to fall pilot-bess, 16 years ago, #
general, the speed remained at 220 and lost altitude, well and in general it is a feature film. Karstar, 16 years ago, #
 5 
Do not have time to go to the movie, waiting for a license, but something of IL-76 flashed by too quickly to 300 km / h. .. Stakan, 16 years ago, #
this is an artistic film:)) something in the "Avatar," people are too blue, do not you think? :) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
This is a feature film, based on real events. A AVATAR is fantastic. Our pilots have called this film a complete sludge, often defiant smirk. love3k, 16 years ago, #
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as well as I, a programmer, grin while watching movies "Die Hard-4", "hackers" and "Swordfish". Your phrase about "our pilots called ..." far-fetched. "Our pilots" from the UA received a lot of pleasure from watching the film. They were ignorant of the fact that in the cab of IL-76 only two knobs RUD, were ignorant that the plane ran too fast - they just enjoy the movie! What you learn and advise) Feature film based on a true story involves the capture of real events and the artistic design of their shell. Such films have been shot thousands - and not all of them breathe authenticity of the facts - because the word ARTISTIC assumes MYTH:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
Partially agree. But I have this realization is an excellent script frustrating. And, apparently, not me alone. love3k, 16 years ago, #
Sanovich (5 o'clock ago): There is a documentary film "Escape from Kandahar," 2006 - this implementation can then better you to browse fit? :) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
is not irony was not even sarcasm - sorry if properly put it - just gave the name Doc. film. Sam did not know him - has already swayed. I want to see - that's you suggested! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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oops, I quoted you, and - for Mr. love3k)) all mixed in dents) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
RAID74 specifically and looked there 4 Rood, even gave pause to verify this, Karstar, 16 years ago, #
There are four (4) Pens ORE! You just have to open your eyes ... toxin_pilot, 15 years ago, #
 5 
Incidentally, this is the IL-76 is still in operation and is in my home Koltsovo (belongs to Ural Airlines). Recently dispatched humanitarian assistance to Haiti. sitya, 16 years ago, #
 5 
What really happened?? Alvol, 16 years ago, #
There is a documentary film "Escape from Kandahar," 2006, Mr. Crew himself said that with half of the band, the flaps on the landing, and that flew at 80 m Sanovich, 16 years ago, #
 5 
Only 5 Sasovopilot, 16 years ago, #
 5 
Commander of course the maestro! Avsimer_Denis, 16 years ago, #
very interesting as they have fuel, you can try to take off with full band with the same weight ... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
C polpolosy? Well, if the band 4km, then vlegkuyu. :) Ру19300, 16 years ago, #
I do not think that in Kandahar 4km strip-wai ... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
In Kandahar, WFP 3200m. With 1600m empty IL-76 tanks to 70-80% will fly) qip88, 16 years ago, #
try:) interesting just Karstar, 16 years ago, #
:) qip88, 16 years ago, #
Incidentally, I also tried to fly to Kandahar on the 76th ... But not with half the band and in the trash overloaded, do not remember what weight and flaps released on skor.210, trimmer almost entirely on Qabr. but in the end, lo and behold, he barely looked up and eating and not gaining any speed or vysotu.Shassi removed mechanization and also went into the set)) If Sim is the voltage - that a crew was in fact a case. Avsimer_Denis, 16 years ago, #
FAC flying this aircraft said that they were 2 / 3 of the band took off and went to 50metrah almost to the border kidaikCy, 16 years ago, #
 5 
great movie .. 2 days ago in the cinema watching. I advise all fans of 76-th Ilyushin. qip88, 16 years ago, #
cool movie, have something to mourn. as you read the dialogues below .... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
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I'm afraid if I have another pair of + / trio will join the discussion below - get srach Output: (One thing I will say - I am for it to shoot / show such films. They are far more interesting to watch than the same modern zabugornye militants .. qip88, 16 years ago, #
qip88 - you have pleased me - a smart idea. Thank you;) I also think so! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
:)) qip88, 16 years ago, #
 5 
as much creep in the skin ... Striker_912, 16 years ago, #
 5 
yes as much tears to be honest ... VlaDOS, 16 years ago, #
Ekranka spoils LeXXX, 16 years ago, #
Yes I know a pirate recording probably. but seen and heard, I think not hurt ... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
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 4 
Points dropped for not having shown how Sharpatov from the Taliban left at zero, because in my opinion - is a key point. Although, it most likely - because of the poverty of our cinema. Sponsors are usually found only on the dumb blockbusters. Exception - 9 rota. ksmu, 16 years ago, #
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At 9 Rothe cranberry dofiga enough to read a review of Dmitry Puchkov, who in addition to transfer movies wrote quite serious articles and in his review for 9 to Roth, he compared the film with real instruments and only 3 similarities: this company really existed, it actually fought in Afghanistan and the last similarity is that the battle at an altitude of 3234 really was. Everything Else fiction directed by Stakan, 16 years ago, #
I do not argue - my assessment of the film is subjective, because 1) I am not an expert in the field of cinematography and 2) I was not in Kandahar, at an altitude of 3234 m ksmu, 16 years ago, #
Stakan, excuse me, of course, but you do not see the difference between fiction and documentary? And as I said RAID74 In its genre film does not claim 100 percent reality of what is happening, for that there are documentaries. And it served as the material - a deal director. Karstar, 16 years ago, #
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I heartily advise you NOT to watch this movie because it is - a complete atstoy, like all RUSSIA (not SSSRovskie) films, but if you want a documentary look Singapore, 16 years ago, #
+4
Thank you will respect your advice, but we'll do on his own way) and minusovat - silly - everyone is entitled to their opinion;) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
RAID74, absolutely agree with you! sergey5993, 16 years ago, #
Amerikosovskoe better? "The Crew" Look! Hollywood rests! Смотрящий, 16 years ago, #
Amerovskie not better, but here's Comedy 20's - 30's they have funny:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Agree! Смотрящий, 16 years ago, #
another twenty-five! Looking! Where are you fasting Singapore saw the word "amerikosovsky? )) Why are you all so fond misinterpret other people's words into your mood you want? not need to read between the lines and look for hidden meaning, as do love women! The man said he likes chno RUSSIA movies! he may Israeli liking! or Indian! That's right:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
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Milliner film some ... Vasiliy_M, 16 years ago, #
Agree! Why take story? read books and skull will be all right, very important not to overdo it:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
cool! lovers of pop zaminusuyut right now! :-D because this film and all that now seems projector amno and pop!:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
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so where will you understand the art of cinema? and why take off, and that means the direction and what it ... Why watch movies and then enter the Internet? sit and read a book ... If you loved his people and homeland, unless of course you're a Russian man, (I am an Armenian, but I do not think like you), you would not put it .... respect and Vasiliy_M!!! Karstar, 16 years ago, #
film certainly well placed, but the work crew leaves much to be desired)) LeXXX, 16 years ago, #
I'm Russian (nationality) people, and I am sorry that the story turn into all-consuming pop culture, the same admiral Kolchak as a hero! where such a thing? and the fact that they (he and his men) of gold were exported from the country, when there was nothing to eat!? simply power advantage, so that people do not know history, so it's easier to manage, dumb herd will not resist. they erase the great past and the future will seem petty great. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
and how much pathos! you do the real heroes of this film seen? saw an interview with them at least once? Surely they are the same pathos and false as they are the actors? GeK397, 16 years ago, #
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yes you, dear, thin. Movies to watch contraindicated. the difference between documentary catch, or not? aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
GeK397 do not think that you have to think about what you say, people have worked as best they could, and so much at this point how much budget they had to say something and they said both managed and showed how they could, but you you've got something to show? do you have something to say?? and how will you express? so in the forums to write about his people shit? You need to think ca handle the huge state? how to feed that pluck and that show? This film is based on real events ... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
and still tell you a secret, in politics there is such a fad, not everything must be disclosed and may be out for anything to happen that something terrible from the panic of the People and the people are different thinking, billions of people .... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
GeK397, if at all to seek out a continuous negative, then the same can be cranky. aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
this is not a documentary! "is a film base on those tragic events, so if the crew is not behaving as it was in fact, or their count does not match reality, nothing to be criticized for it, it's a movie not a documentary and artistic! here you can was and instead of IL-76 and Boeing foist! directors tried to do as much as possible to approximate the real, if something did not work, do not you kick them! Striker_912, 16 years ago, #
but in reality you deeply LinkBacks. You toss these speeches about Kolchak and the herd just to "pontanutsya" ... aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
I Has even things against their own country?? I said the word only for the sons of the fatherland. skip the cab with our AGD, passing it off as a cabin amerovskogo F-4!? this budget? or the fact that the missile with infrared homing unexpected departure to the right and explodes why?? is that true? After all, IL-76 than the nominal device to shoot a BEFORE and LTTS NOTHING Without! and he them, and not fire back. EXACTLY WHAT I CAN SAY is the fact that making this film the creative team in the least bother realism. Just do not say that it behaves like a rocket, and that not everyone knows looks like cab F-4 does not know everything. so, I agree. Such films should be removed with a 100% realistic, but if not, then do not give "it" for the facts. As for the huge state. Yeltsin and so made every effort and pulled all the levers that the huge and powerful states collapsed, but Russia remained the most helpless. so that someone who, but definitely not our ruling upper classes know how to handle the huge country and with its brilliant people. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
ESPECIALLY FOR aiRoNe: to my great joy, I was just a wonderful teacher of history. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
FOR Striker_912: if you do not kick me, then who? I am a spectator, they work for me and for me! we are "in capitalism" live, I have every right to evaluate the product, which is on the market. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
a movie screen has its own sanctions and prohibitions, 1. do not show violence. (punishment, vandalism, masochism, ....) 2. Lexicon (harsh words, insults people, government, country) 3. psychological decision colorbars, personnel and lighting solutions 4. .... I can not emphasize all the points, and you try to save those laws to remove dock or thin film that appeared on the screen and took place People's Choice! Karstar, 16 years ago, #
FOR Karstar: and who said what to violence? Do you really think that viewers need a "realism"? I now personally think that there is. in that time and again that during the movie a lot of violence. I'm not saying that this is not true. just do not understand is why this film was shot, if shown Basically conditions? unless you open the scenery soul heroes? GeK397, 16 years ago, #
That is just the problem that can not make films without special effects. can not be directors and screenwriters to catch people as something more than the scenery, sounds, effects. We do not see the brilliant script, we see only the shell, and need a shower, it is harder and plonyat and do so, and less pop. and you all know, if people do not go the film does not pay off, and all that is done for the sake of money can not be equal to that made from the heart. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
That's for this is that the direction of his show and in the eyes of the operator, so that both could have life or was, instead of the characters played by actors and not the pilots or terrorists! and rightly said Striker_912 could and instead of IL-76 life in general boyng or bus! THIS MOVIE, THIS IS a feature film, and so keeping these items and the laws of film dir. A. Kavun (salaam upon him) said that the government did not care, he very carefully had insulted the supreme rulers, showed the suffering of the prisoners, pay attention to the dialogues, the words, Dialog _skolko we have left? _do Which has released? _net Until slaughter .. .. make sense? "_kuda we fly? _v Sky" I think that the director knows a lot of what you have learned that it works properly show the correct behavior dialogues .. and say that you failed to understand that they cheated and the consul, and the government did not care and do nothing to free the hostages .... and the sons of their homeland, not as lavish, not betrayed their motherland is not accepted Islam, and managed to stand up for yourself, in your same aircraft returned to their homeland have heroes, and they were spit on ...!! BUT ....? Karstar, 16 years ago, #
and how many times have you watched the movie great Paradzhanova "The Color of Pomegranate" and how to understand what film? Karstar, 16 years ago, #
And it seems to me that the film - he was such a ... normalnyy.No when compared with the history, and compare the readings of documentary film (where the pilots themselves tell us that, yes it was) and this film, then in truth there is a difference ... (A few may be absurd arguments) 1) The fact that the crew consisted of 7 persons. 2) In the film, did not want to show except for Russian and Ukrainian nobody .. Yet: Vladimir Sharpatov, Gazinur Khairullin, Alexander is healthy, Askhat Abbyazov, Yuri Vshivtsev, Sergei Butuzov and Victor Ryazanov - is not only Russian! So Sharpatova team can give an objective evaluation film. Avsimer_Denis, 16 years ago, #
BUT what? All right, do not intend to challenge. Director aims to cut down and loot and history meet. on the history of your home country Babli Framework. He did everything correctly. I repeat: I do not understand focus of the film, why they it was removed? Surely in order to remember the heroes of the motherland? vryatli. Special effects in 2012 as a brag? so this is something too little for the truth is like. So what's meaning of the movie? GeK397, 16 years ago, #
film should be evaluated by its script is written and what happened, there is truth to the story? then dir. rights, he thin. film can show a crew of 14 people, even in the dock movie is playing episodes. looked dock. film about Chernobyl? is the difference compared with this story? Learn how to not look like film but as a dock Hood. film, but as a film crew? is it reality? Karstar, 16 years ago, #
for Karstar: yes, you guessed it, something like that I expected to hear. here is just shows the inner world of the poet, not his appearance. Unfortunately looks prevlikaet most viewers now, no one wants to delve into someone's mind .... GeK397, 16 years ago, #
meaning of the movie is that the government was indifferent to his people, why's their homeland where they were employed have generated, and the people of his country .... and this country did nothing to save its citizens? is the purpose of the film! several people did not care for them! there is a dialogue "_oni same nor can we forget we are the Russian pilots" but .... they forgot ....!!!! Here it shows Kavun Karstar, 16 years ago, #
crew is a separate issue, "barebone". all that can be said, has had the place to be. v5 same, you do not quite understand what is my question. I'm not finding fault with the director, I understand, have a story, there are actors, but the question is that the movie was done first ATTRACTIVE, so it stretches. attractive for what? for the crowd, for the money "movie lovers" finally? "...'s their homeland ..." Yes, funny. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
The film is a kind of art, cinema! but in art there is money, and most is done for the sake of money, which paints a picture? Why theater? Why opera? the audience went, but nothing nothing happens, bought tickets, we do not pay for commerce. and appreciate ihnyuyu work Karstar, 16 years ago, #
2Karstar - not convinced ... As a feature film - a hat! And this is no longer the director's ... Vasiliy_M, 16 years ago, #
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again "ihnyuyu":-D this is very funny. in Russian will learn to write, then the conversation will continue. Patriots, pancake. "fighters for the pure art." Pah! GeK397, 16 years ago, #
I have the impression that I communicate with the audience senseless movies do you like movies Tarrantino? Well, I do nothing myself nervous about some people who can not see what you see .... themselves evaluate ... what did you do? as you put it in front of millions of human beings or as able to express? or do you have that show? let and special effects? Karstar, 16 years ago, #
GeK397 I do not then I'm Armenian, Russian, and be thankful that so I know the Russian language, but you know in Armenian? let's continue the conversation in Armenian, Karstar, 16 years ago, #
or learn how to write and communicate Armenian least, it was then and talk, talk, and can go together on the shore of Lake Sevan skewers do. Karstar, 16 years ago, #
I beg your pardon, did not know about your nationality. I would be glad to know more languages, but, unfortunately, in a normal school except English and Russian, and there's nothing studied. Movies Tarrantino no better than in Kandahar, and in them even more turmoil. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
moreover, in my small town vryatli can find a school of foreign languages, which would be studied Armenian. yes and friends of Armenians there. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
interesting to chat to anyone and have done? pro100gamer, 16 years ago, #
Well then your carping about my knowledge of Russian leave her and if you love your people, for their own countries and nationalities praising their directors, before other nations, good luck to you, be careful when watching a movie and understand the whole meaning, Karstar, 16 years ago, #
I used to express in words. I do not have any outstanding qualities, but I did not climb to make a film. and in general, if you know so much about the movie, can enlighten the public how to become famous Director and screenwriter? I just do not personally know the producers, who with the world izvstnost at least once before, and maybe after froze known to the world made a film for "sophisticated viewer" GeK397, 16 years ago, #
"Gek397: So what's meaning of the movie?" My answer to you. I have not had time to watch this "hat movie, but judging by the reviews of my friends (and my friends on fuflo thereof) - see at least once - is. Now explain why the costs and why it was removed feature film. After seeing last year, two feature film "Bunker" and "Operation Valkyrie", I was so interested in the historical nuances raised in these films (not mapped with 100% certainty, Noah), which was not too lazy to delve into Wikipedia, to download a couple of documentaries on this subject and learn many new things for myself from the history of the Great Patriotic War. Clever - yes understand my analogy and my thoughts. Stupid - yes continue to scream that art pop eats the brain. However - pop pop-music - discord! "Avatar" - pop, who teaches at the subconscious that betrayal - it was good. "Kandahar" - makes today's young people (not all, but those who have the entire brain is not washed away beer) to go and dig in the Internet and learn something new. Well, not force - to pay for the ticket, look cool fighter and Wali drink beer on! RAID74, 16 years ago, #
I AGREE WITH YOU! Phrase "Stupid - yes continue to scream that artistic pop eats the brain." Take it as a personal insult. pts AVATAR AGREE COMPLETELY. Incidentally a smart young people have not only the Internet, they still listen to the elders and know that the book - "man's best friend." and on the internet know too silly enough. ... Yes WIKIPEDIA inexhaustible and it seems the only source of information ...... more people would have been too lazy, sitting in a chair in front of computer The "dig in Wikipedia "..... GeK397, 16 years ago, #
and the way you present school history textbooks read at least once? I have looked at you, you're reading this, as it had not gone scrip and not become "stupid", because they understand absolutely nothing is impossible. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
really did not think it would be so annoying you this episode and I would not put ... Karstar, 16 years ago, #
Gek397 - propose to adjourn the debate meaningless, or to translate it into chat) screaming here - you do not change. If you have a conscious - change anything in reality, not persuade us here. I'm on such "smart screamers in his time had already seen enough:) Sorry, not you personally to blame it said. N ** But we all do with more. But something changed - the units, and those by one powerless. So let everyone keeps its IMHO and on film and on the history and about respect for the Motherland, OK? :) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
RґR°R°R°R°R°R° is also happens :))))))))) armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
would be better off not sent ......... armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
RAID74 GO! I apologize for the flood. I apologize if someone from my point of view of participants struck a chord. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
well understood that armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
will further flooding, as the final notes: unfortunately all the places and positions, which maozhno like to change the country and the life in it yet employed relatives of current workers for decades to come. but this does not mean that people are powerless, just to have suppressed Sun desire to fight, unfortunately there is no strong national idea ..... GeK397, 16 years ago, #
here and create a powerful national idea:))) and then again fludilnya begins:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
armaviaEK me your comments are joking. interesting how you think it would be polite if I ascribe to your answers something like: "well I understand that," RґR°R°R°R°R°R° is also happens :)))))))))"? I do not think you would have pleased my such attacks. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
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as a national idea and th project, I would totally prohibit sale of alcohol. nation time to sober up, and even so have done stupid things. but I now nakinutsya defenders of alcohol with cries of "it will not solve the problem":) still be decided, if only to try ..... GeK397, 16 years ago, #
rather than x ** was here to arrange a poetry armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
Huck - How old are you? You mean you climbed out of the jungle? Alcohol, he would be banned. In America, banned, yeah. What happened? What is over, remember? :) And we have here is not America - we Najera once the revolution begins. Gorbachev also tried to ban. Also for examples not far to seek that the country began immediately ... though not so strongly, but not banned in America for 100% ... Scribe, where you are all such smart and vociferous comes out? Of the universities? :)) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
yes if only it was poetry ... and why swear? swearing is not necessary:) and put yourself above others, too, that you just did and are doing their behavior. If you are smart, prove that I'm wrong! (and here in lichku please, although I'm afraid is that you write me there, if there mat swear:-D) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
and you can it from PTU? question of age are considered inappropriate. but I will say this, if we let the external enemies and further ruin the country (although lack of internal enemies with an excess), then we shall all with you in the near future, Uncle Sam's to plow, all likely to oil platforms and wells. You probably "shit" that will come after you? Why live the future, if there is now? GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Gek397, dear, yes we do not want to wash brains - we have these truths without you have long understood. And you, captain obvious, all of us are trying to prove over two pages that you've only seen the light and we, the blind kittens learn :)))) but personally I read it and I find it funny, because once again I see one thing: Bla Bla Bla :) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
GeK397 okay armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
Yes I know what you know:) I personally just do not understand how you can protect it, do not agree with? and by the way this Forum is not Bla Bla Bla?:) if you want I am pleased to banish their "truths" and everything that I have written here. just can not leave if you do not interfere with my "works in three volumes." I put it bluntly, without any difference. but better to ask admins bang it all. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
But do not touch alcohol:) Here I do not agree with Huck. MAPC, 16 years ago, #
armaviaEK, who told you that I have to calm down? :) Personally I am quite calm. GeK397, 16 years ago, #
the secret is just to be able to defend it, do not agree with - because that is what is born objectivity and truth:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
objectivity and truth? Why protect them? truth it is the truth. MAPC, 16 years ago, #
yo me ..... armaviaEK, 16 years ago, #
yes, you do not have enough already 3 pages of enriched Karstar, 16 years ago, #
MARS - the stout:) read my sentence again - until you did not make sense:) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
so if I do not agree that 5 multiplied by 5 in the decimal system is not 24, but I have to bang your head on the table and foaming at the mouth to prove that this is so?:-D No, pardon me? to prove the truth of it is just still a favorite among young KO necessary. or you IO? :-D GeK397, 16 years ago, #
RAID74 :)))))): D Karstar, 16 years ago, #
just do not think that I did not understand what you are:) I realized just sounds strange, my teachers and professors do not think so:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
OK, the topic, I think, is closed - every age has its own wisdom) has long been proved that with age all come to the same thoughts. I have your experienced and went on:) But I come to know many things yet:) so that everything remains in its;) and mathematics nothing to do with;) This is an exact science. Oh, if only with the other things in the world everything would be as simple and accurate! :))) RAID74, 16 years ago, #
on the world agree (especially for armaviaek: please do not comment on my post!:)) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Lord to go into tough pathos, will now be required tearing out of context. RAID I sense your phrase fully understood. You do not understand my meaning? Why defend the truth of it is true unless it can be understood in two ways? If so then this is not true at all. MAPC, 16 years ago, #
answered in lichku RAID74, 16 years ago, #