The information technology committee of the inquiry crash Airlines Tu-154M Pulkovo "of Donetsk 22 August 2006, the
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Evaluate will not because not understand why the material is spread in the public domain on the official website of Macao. But the very conclusion .... not me and not here kitikovat.
− DDim,
19 years ago,
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RLE generally do not save. If it does not comply with the ...
− Tortilla-Jet,
19 years ago,
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That is, if it is: no one will give complete information. Even the professionals guess. But there is, and focus on RLE, that is, quote, "the effectiveness of the longitudinal, lateral and lateral control of the Guidelines on the recommended flight operations (RLE) flight is sufficient ..." and "at any time, particularly the development of the situation until Stalling the possibility of withdrawal of aircraft operating at angles of attack in accordance with the recommendations of RLE. Uchkuduk also "studied". All those who died, too, trusted that uspokoilovke, and that - it saved them RLE?
− vcm,
19 years ago,
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2vcm: I am amazed how you believe the press. If they had reported at least 10-15% of the truth it would be genius. No one will never have complete information on the cause of the collapse or in Irkutsk, nor under the Donetsk or near Sochi. And, I think, is hardly a thread of a journalist "in person!" listen to a "black box" and quote them with 100% accuracy in the press. We write in the newspapers in that profitable, but it is not true.
− kivals,
19 years ago,
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I'm not sure that anyone understands any of this problem. These breakdowns of saying that for experienced pilots conduct Tu-154 in the stall was always totally unexpected. Something there is a serious, newspaper, magazines reaction is only a consequence of this skewed situation. I would like to recall the crash of TU-154 Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk - Khabarovsk (06.12.95). For half an hour before the TU while flying IL-62 without problems, but Bird has fallen ... It is necessary to decrypt it, and the notion of "structural features" Tu-154 (S. Mikhalchenko), catch up on the fog Donetsk catastrophe. And Armenian A320 fell, his ... dropped (ie, Stalling was not, was zavalivanie). More discussion professinalov see avia.ru http://www.avia.ru/forum/5/2/5607855176739265407231171970052_all.shtml?topiccount=441
− vcm,
19 years ago,
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vcm: you do not understands the reasons that were given, but the statistics podcherpnutuyu mention of newspaper, magazine submissions on this point.
− FireFly,
19 years ago,
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Well, the topic may be, and by recent, so the answer to a question no ... All understand (the idea) that it is the stability of the plane with a random access to the critical angle. Here in IL-62 - both on the subject worked! A statistics guys stubborn thing - about the collapse of TU and its causes. Materials are available. If you prefer, you can open a topic, this is not the place for vprosov - answers.
− vcm,
19 years ago,
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2vcm: If I did not alter sclerosis, the 154 produced in 1992, and the A230 - in 1985. If the A320 were something not good, it would have long ago banned the production and the build up to this day. A 154 on the flight characteristics are not inferior to Airbus, the exclusion of comfort and efficiency. And what about the media, IMHO heard the bell but do not know where he is. The crew of the easiest to blame, they have no one asks. 2 Moderator: This is a patient issue, nipped to the holes in the WMS offtop it?
− kivals,
19 years ago,
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2 vcm. EC razmahnulsya you ... Widely step porvesh pants.
− Tortilla-Jet,
19 years ago,
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vcm, you do not RїRѕRґSЃRєR°R¶RµS?SЊ - how many years Tu154 is already in use? By the way, due out at angles of attack zakriticheskie fell and Armenian A320 (Sochi) - they also need to remove from exploitation?
− Alex_Kite,
19 years ago,
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I read this story, taken from another source. Quite kutsy material. A lot of the words "may," "possible". Alarming, however, that this is not the first (I'm afraid not the last) problem in a series of catastrophes (different crews, well not all the same they are mentally neuravnovesheny!), Is caused by the transition to the (over) the critical angles of attack - flaw magistral of the design (?) If the last is true, it must be to ban flights of Tu-154 B (M).
− vcm,
19 years ago,
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Quote "I honestly do not understand why I put this here? At the forum this topic is overwritten by a few holes to temah.Net, you must again raise the vopros.Mazohizm some." Partly yes, but this story is and it should know! If I touched somebody's phobias apologize.
− Якубов,
19 years ago,
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The most well-supported SCC Russia: "We are disappointed to note that the Commission preferred not to voice the most reasoned and convincing version of .." and "Official conclusions do not reflect the true causes of the disaster and do not take into account all the factors that led to it."
− FireFly,
19 years ago,
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They will have to revise the laws of action in extreme conditions. They are not valid. Results per person.
− Vladislau,
19 years ago,
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I honestly do not understand why I put this here? At the forum this topic is overwritten by a few holes to temah.Net, you must again raise the vopros.Mazohizm some.
− polarfox,
19 years ago,
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Tin full! Found two extreme human CF and 2P-trainee. Here is the human factor in a person.
− GRAFF,
19 years ago,
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Quote "The shortcomings of these training crews TU-154 according to a quarterly training programs on CBS TU-154 for Challenge 2 Exercise 4V« Flight of the zone ... to play the regime of approach to critical angles of attack ... V»is impossible." but as an opportunity? but it is really Tin Set line 390 was carried out from the grip V«descent-ascentV» for operation of engines with slightly less than the nominal ABSU included in the roll and pitch channels. The actual vertical speed climb at 8 - 10m/sek, more than twice positioned vertically speed dialing for the actual flight conditions and led to a drop in speed when entering the line 390 to ~ 420 km / h (M - 0.74). "
− DAR,
19 years ago,
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