Attempting to put this military transport aircraft in director mode. Apparently face crossed below glidepath. This is obvious. And although he has a chassis adapted to ruthless exploitation unprepared airfields, will not once again to experience it for strength. While the first runway touch the right bracket!
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What is joy? Well, visually, and I plant, but also in Afghanistan, called the landing forgot how to spiral to the bottom and on the strip. Forgot ... At my zyke vertical, karoe plant easily. AN-12 verhoplan, see a bunch of real video, I think physics is not hot, does not go well, the An-12 landing on the nose or gorizonku up, he goes nose to the bottom of IL-76 and the current is aligned to the touch and slightly raise the nose. So too, lizh would have to repeat something like. @ntuan, 17 years ago, #
Fully agree with you, just a nose-down))) TAG, 17 years ago, #
Well yes, quite agree. He and vice delete nose. Actually nothing special. On several occasions dealt with the front desk runway inadvertently. And about the landings and takeoffs in Afghanistan by a steep spiral yesterday I watched the video. Very, very interesting. R—R« Videos from this level "about anything, no matter what does not pretend. Just a beautiful craft, and "flying", even though the truck. That's all. pofik, 17 years ago, #
2 TAG da An-12 was landing nose down! And not because the video! He verhoplan he has such aerodynamics! :) @ntuan, 17 years ago, #
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@ ntuan, yes! virtually all Antovskie machines so sadyatsya:) and do not try to plant AN-12 as tu-134/154, or what else .. TAG, 17 years ago, #
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speed planning 210-220, flaps at 15 .... you split)))) What you have is a dynamo??? PS is a good movie TAG, 17 years ago, #
The dynamics of the one that is attached to the kraft (Obviously, it makes the aircraft more "volatile"?). Here I am because of the previous two landings with a maximum angle of release flap is commonly referred runway front desk chassis and then the rear. This is a normal phenomenon in the full release of mechanization? Fly on the first day, and reread a lot of necessary information about its flight characteristics of forum unfortunately do not have the time. Here's how I can, and learn it myself. But setting acrobat-reader, read to the manual, and will do fine. You know how it happens, just like in heaven ... and already in the flight "feel" without theoretical training. pofik, 17 years ago, #
By the way, not the speed of planning, and speed reduction. The difference I think is clear. isc, 17 years ago, #
The manual is nothing worthwhile there! DINAMU vozmite now from here http://www.avsim.su/forum/inde​x.php?showtopic=70511&;pid=1112811&st=340 & # entry1112811 Good luck:) TAG, 17 years ago, #
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isc, no rate plan) TAG, 17 years ago, #
Thank you! If this trend really burdening the plane, that's just fine. Ato this smart ... pofik, 17 years ago, #
There is no need to argue. On glidepath down, but do not plan and do another. The reason is simple-to speak with the flight plan, without traction control. isc, 17 years ago, #
thanks to the author of this dynamo)) TAG, 17 years ago, #
isc, I will not argue, I just have Bati have a table speed during landing, for Al-12, there is written Vplan .. that is why I wrote) TAG, 17 years ago, #
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This table does not apply to flights on glidepath, but refers to a decline in the denial of all the engines. And in another way, does this theory (aerodynamics). Here is the definition of planning: "Planning is a special case of reduction of the plane in which the aircraft is reduced with the engine shut off or the engine running at low speeds, with the draft, almost equal to zero." isc, 17 years ago, #
Do not need to apologize, I am writing to comment to you a better understanding of aviation. Good luck. isc, 17 years ago, #
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thanks:) World is not without good people ... TAG, 17 years ago, #
All properly written, and there is "SPEED PLANNING" ISC does not show off one's management wrote the same ... probably not stupid Vlad34, 17 years ago, #
so how to??? Vsnizheniya or Vplanirovaniya??? TAG, 17 years ago, #
In the instructions the crew of the AN-12 "is written -" the speed of the planning instrument "tab.18 (SЃRїRµS†RѕRј I looked;). This is for the VTA. They said lyumin means lyumin and PPC:) Ie speed reduction in the glidepath or rather reduce the speed at preplant straight as you like. RќR°S„RyoRіR° cavil to say? To show how clever I type? I love this NOE Handbook ... Vlad34, 17 years ago, #
SimulaG§GЈo just put (FSX). It is not yet SЂR°R·RѕR±SЂR°R»SЃSЏ that as a yes, but the first thing download and install the EN-12.Poletal.Skazhu way to put it on the front rack, or even both and even more so do not put in SЃRyoRјRјSѓR»SЏS‚RѕSЂRµ simply not ... He may fly as "iron" at least "rulezhku" his sazhay.Ponyatno that the dynamics of flight and its functionality has been developed c so that a professional could not even manage im.Deystvitelno an excellent job!. It is a pity that there is no Separate management of external and domestic ores dvigateley.Hotya in the real, far from it all prosto.Ne know who might come in handy would be shorter than that in the simulator to take off, perform a flight in a circle and sit down enough to know that is, max. vzl.ves 61t maks.posad.ves 58t maks.gruzopodemnost 20t (depending on the version of refueling and loading) maks.zapravka (depending on modification) with underground tanks 21t without them (only in the wing), 14t.-front exercise bands ( in the preliminary): altimeters to zero, Trimmers neutrons., flaps 25, before taking off, agree a course, put the plane on the axle, clutch brake, ores vzl. (100%) of the headlamp vkl.posle reach takeoff brake release (even in Reale pile points)-run, skor.podema pered.nogi 170-200 km / h (depending on weight), tearing the plane at 185-230km / h, cleaning the chassis on the 240-250km / h at a height of not less than 10m-headlights off. removed by high. not less than 100m at a speed of 290-310km / h to start cleaning flap (so that by the time of harvest would be at 0 speed was 320km / h-ore face value, you can simply prebrat so that the speed was no more than 400km / h in gorizont.polete -take-500m to make the first turn and so on ...-off, speed pribrat up to 350km / h, to release the landing gear, after the third, at a speed of 320-330km / h, the flaps 15 after the fourth flaps 25 to release the headlamp, inc . after passage of the far-drive, if confidence in the possibility of landing, flaps 35, the speed of planning (ie planning) 250-280km / h, after passing through the end of kupper, 17 years ago, #
OK, thanks:) TAG, 17 years ago, #
Well, that's all, everything is correct, I wrote 'speed planning ")) TAG, 17 years ago, #
-after passing through the front runway at 5-8 m vys.okolo aligned plane smoothly remove ores, smooth wheel itself, and he shall sit AMU All written above elements are dependent on many factors, alignment, weight distribution of fuel in the tanks, the speed and direction wind, pressure, temperature, and if t.d.Vot simple words, in brief, it is enough that would manage the An-12, aviasimulyatore as zapravskomu pilot action ... This algorithm is applied to the Military Transport Aviation, the "citizens" perhaps it is different, but I think not much (except zakruzki aircraft (vzl. and quarters. weight)). a nice flight and soft landing you on this beautiful plane! kupper, 17 years ago, #
I explained everything. I know this firsthand. What I explained here is the basics of flight dynamics. Not only did I fly, I still practice, not a flying one type and read than one RLE and learned not a single student. Especially for TAGa, repeat on the glidepath plane decreases, and no plans. If you have further questions, please in Licko. isc, 17 years ago, #
In the instructions the crew of the AN-12, actually says the speed planirovaniya.Bolee, in the map prior to planting, read on the radio An-12 to the beam, and read - "the speed of planning" (in the VTA precise). For many years, heard it, t . to my calculations seed weight and alignment, and under instructions from the crew, the commander determines the speed of it is "planning" rather than "reduction" ... kupper, 17 years ago, #
Get on this site RLE AN-12 (file 11258_RLE-12_PDF.zip), page 27, open the 4th chapter, paragraph 9 and read the words "9. After the fourth turn on the line ... "it's what I'm talking to you. The following table 4.6 also provides faster reduction. This is the correct definition! isc, 17 years ago, #
Unfortunately I do not have the "instructions the crew of the AN-12" on to this I can not specify the exact page, but remember to izust "section and the reduction of landing" - after the release flap angle of 35 to set the speed of planning 250-280km / h in Depending on the flight-weight, direction and wind speed .... Also, I remember the card before the decimal point (represented by 18-20 rounds per shift to do) and heard a lot over many let.Chto regard "to identify" those subtleties, and depth study of such disciplines as aerodynamics, children as TAG. not so important now (only in general terms). That will come to you in college, where these subtleties nauchite.Pravilno, kid downloaded the AN-12, respectively pochital.Esli he came sections "Installation crew" you can not doubt, VTA speed this stage of flight, really shows how the speed planirovaniya.K article write Licko, which train college students can to discuss the An-12 ... kupper, 17 years ago, #
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Nothing much) better viewed from the earth did not say to the camera) Владимир Пахомов, 17 years ago, #
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normally planted) qip88, 17 years ago, #
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normal sanechek, 17 years ago, #
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Liked it! A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
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well done! his own pilot. His other than visually, and not put dima-Utair, 17 years ago, #
And devices that? A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
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ASK, someone would say:) flying on IL-76 with ZHPS)))) HaN, 17 years ago, #
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I am popular, I'm in a dream do not dream began, rats golimym? You know, so it will understand. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
OMFG, I wrote to you 2 times, lol HaN, 17 years ago, #
And? A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
Just RЅR°S„RyoRіR° you put REX (have 12 FPS and Grisha, it rules, OK) killed nafik land (from the left just a color, though he reminded threat), put the mud 76 (for FSX) and radueshsya from flight ZHPS. One set of rules for FSX summer craft (at least 737 forks (where the panel rules)) or by becoming a FS9 and summer at 76 from KLN least. HaN, 17 years ago, #
Have you seen where the screen from the cab with GPS? A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
I guess, but how else to fly, because no 1 no navigation system in FSX at 76) HaN, 17 years ago, #
Wrong guess. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
flight-to-face? HaN, 17 years ago, #
On the runway there is no eye, and the KLN-90B can earn and FSX after a series of improvements! A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
Well, since you have not refined, but the meaning to write after several dorabotak no, because it is navryatli anyone would do, but if you do everything the same in the past, you fly in ZHPS! :) HaN, 17 years ago, #
I do not fly in the IL-76, yet it is not finalized my friends programmers. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
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and you know how to fly chtol? a. s. quality. Yes lan? Oh you forgot the real Pilot AFL101, 17 years ago, #
devices, I put in the 2nd place ... forgot about this director of a needle ... dima-Utair, 17 years ago, #
Yes, people can ask for help, it helps, helps, and they to you then f *** s turn and spread news, to scold Kulikov, once wrote me that he was self-inflated and SЃRєSЂRyoRЅS‹ his garbage. AFL101, Maxim_Utair, is not it? Yes, and il-96 is not better, had requested help with the livery, complained that one of his former friends, it is not hard to guess who said that his assessment of topic 1 and obmateril put it brutally in the LAN, then correspondence was shown to me to have spared the poor well. Well, I do not ubudet that you do so, I did not do anything bad to you all, but if you want me to pay attention, well, then I am for you is so important. Falls to the response of insults and provocations, I will not, because I believe it is improper conduct. Living in different cities, of course, can afford a lot of unnecessary things, you are far from each other, but remember one thing: Everything in life comes back. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
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The fact that there are living in different cities rather save you, because I think no hands no feet you would not have been pick on key, you have everything around plohzie and rats, you're a good one, did not notice that it was sufficient to write Konnov - m ** ** to, as there will be 10 soon??? Maybe worth thinking about? Reading books? level intelleksta raise and then ask people to communicate? what help??? Konnov, your liveried kachat only fifteen are new, you hereby nastroitn your e can, 12 FPS, no navigation, no nothing, what help?? Ochnis you noughts without sticks. and no! You hates sex forum, I would place it on your RІRѕR±S‰Rµ would not get out anywhere, pridurok! AFL101, 17 years ago, #
Hands, legs, I always will, no doubt, not because such people, but those swings, I advise to review, because my liveried in adults is serious people, not those who live in Moscow wants to study in UVAU GA did it does not do. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
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may be enough? Maxim_Utair, 17 years ago, #
Maybe I have enough dirty water? I personally have done to you? A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
"may be enough?" - It was treated not only to you, Alexander. Maxim_Utair, 17 years ago, #
So my question, too, to all. A.S.K., 17 years ago, #
People !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Calm down! TAG, 17 years ago, #
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Every your PC to someone 15 FPS hurray, someone 25 "brakes ".... And each decides how to fly on defaulted / in 737 of the fork / In Iwao ... join the TAG and Maxim ... Enough! Exelletor, 17 years ago, #