Official Report VP-BKO
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The official report on the disaster BOEING 737-500 a / c "Aeroflot-north"
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17 years ago (06.07.2009 00:01)
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Межгосударственный авиационный комитет
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It is clear that nothing is clear. Dumped in a heap of all that we can dig for the ordered withdrawal. The crew was prepared and it is clear from the history of passage of PPLS. Remember: 95% of flying is prepared in the same or even slightly worse, so do not horseradish ululate.
− 81384,
17 years ago,
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Dear 81384, I certainly can not discuss with you flying on the same case, because according to the nick, you are a pilot, but I do not. But, if I may still answer them. I agree with you that the withdrawal of crew error as the sole reason impolite. Certainly, there have been serious violations in other parts: the plane was, roughly speaking, is defective, because gave a strong raznotyag at the same position Rudov that go beyond all tolerance. It might not be so, they would not receive a fatal heeling moment. Next shifted scheme entering FMC is not controlled by the board does not fit into the scheme. Go farther - the controller did not provide clarification call scheme ( "course at the drive" - to drive can be accessed in different ways), and allowed the third at a distance of 20 km at an altitude of 1300m AGL that early. Thus, the crew was initially brought before the serious problems, not created by them. And the reason for the catastrophe is only in the attendant factors, rather than the principal. I'm really not talking about defective channel registration deviation helm, because of what we do not know for certain how deviated handwheel - control surfaces to deflect in a different way because of, for example, the failure rate. In addition, the acquisition of a crew of pilots before flying to a different location on the engines and avionics type with fixed reflexes and objectively equally maloopytnyh at B735, raises questions, again, not to the crew, but to the airline. So, in the main I am with you, Dear 81384, I agree. And yet ... Is B735 is not certified to a safe landing even when the single engine, ie with an absolute plug traction? Is it not to be actively used at this pH? Is it in the "course at the drive" should not refer to the ARC? Is it beyond variations on the glidepath not need immediately, without a doubt go to the second round? And the "unless" there is still a lot. The conclusion I have one: I hope that the transitional period in Russia's aviation will soon end, and the pilots of Boeing and
− Ektock,
17 years ago,
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I would like to express my deep gratitude Maku, as well as the author of the material posted. I have been writing all kinds of forums that such detailed, ethically correct, and contain real information, records are needed as the air. And now, at long last, published an excellent report on the world standards! You can compare with the documents NTSB, AAIB, BEA, BFU - all done on a global scale. I am confident that the publication of all people and all aviaotrasli are only good. They immediately normalize the situation in the society - not the place to be rumors and speculation, people see that the authorities tell them how everything was, and, more importantly, in what direction we must act, that the catastrophe does not occur. I am confident that ultimately the risk of deterioration in the attractiveness of the industry only to be reduced. Kremlev Dear Ivan, I have only one, so to say, a dream. Can I expect over time to publish such reports on older accident, where the limitation period expires? Indeed, until now, even professional pilots do not have complete information, such as stalling in tailspin Soviet Tu-154B-85311 July 10, 1985 under Uchkuduk, although many would like to understand from a purely professional point of view. I am working with the official documents showed me in Donetsk, 2006, found there were only three fragments of Uchkuduk-85: http://www.avsim.su/files.phtml?action=download&;id=13240&hl = These graphs all very interested and I'm sure, went only to the benefit. Is there hope if ever seen on Uchkuduk-85 document, like the one you have to Perm-2008? Thanks in advance for any comments. You can e-mail and on. Thank you again for posting material
− Ektock,
17 years ago,
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no swings (((
− dudu,
17 years ago,
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All the swing, just a file is downloaded PDF, it should be retained as necessary for you to drive. Everything is simple.
− VDSky,
17 years ago,
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thanks, I do not kerf
− dudu,
17 years ago,
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Yes, guys, forgot to add. Pictures of the bead was made exactly one day before the disaster. The same time, Perm, the same aircraft, flight, etc. Only days ago ........ (at airlines.net found)
− Kremlev,
17 years ago,
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It is sad. Once again ubezhdayus.Kakaya country, such lyudi.V country and for the money you can now become even kosmonavtom.V Civil Aviation tazhe garbage. "I bought the right and drive what you want. Mess one slovom.Strashno fly.
− =Gnom=,
17 years ago,
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Often have to fly to Georgia, but I use only tamoshnimi companies - before Georgian airways, now or AeroSvit Armavia (transit) - For 20 years no one (pah-pah) catastrophe in the first two, and only one of the latter. During this same time, Russia broke more than 40 large (TOW> 50t) and more than hundreds of small planes
− Nonius,
17 years ago,
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Well you compare passenger Russia and Georgia and Armenia.
− Vaniks,
17 years ago,
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And there is quite large passenger, for example, in Europe - flights are filled completely, flying every day. Do AeroSvit and UIA there is monitoring the fleet. We follow more or less in the TCO, AFL, and in Russia, and all. More from Africa
− Nonius,
17 years ago,
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wiseacre wiseacre not, but one must take into account the "carcass" in pereuchivanii to Boeing or Airbus
− Nonius,
17 years ago,
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in the sense that the Tu-134, AN-24, Yak-40 Old AG have to reverse indication (agile aircraft in a fixed-land), in contrast to the rest of us. By the way, that Sibir A310 at Irkustke crashed in 2006, there also the factor of "carcass" played a role: the last team had been non-existent flight (the captain and 2 of the pilot before flying to the Tu-154)
− Nonius,
17 years ago,
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About reverse indication is clear, I mean naplevatelskoe related to the duties of the crew, the card checks, etc. The feeling that people just put off without any training and examinations.
− Vaniks,
17 years ago,
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And in my opinion and it was, only to quickly pereuchilis money to do something here. It's a pity that in our country from the aviation industry has turned a golden calf to worship human hecatomb (hecatomb - offering a large amount when the slaughter hundreds of animals, hence the name)
− Nonius,
17 years ago,
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Sy read the document. Hair on end faces of the qualifications of both pilots. Who took the decision to issue a separate flight of egghead!? It is a sad 8 (
− Vaniks,
17 years ago,
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your desire to not overpay.
− fly-max,
17 years ago,
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